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15 years 6 months ago [\#15388](#15388) by [MarkyMark](/forum/user/2377-markymark "View MarkyMark's Profile")  *[Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#15388 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")* was created by *[MarkyMark](/forum/user/2377-markymark "View MarkyMark's Profile")*

Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!

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15 years 6 months ago [\#15389](#15389) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")  Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#15389 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

You need to combine both in one tax rate as HikaShop can only apply one tax rule at a time (you can have several tax rules for different zones, different customer types, different product categories, but only one can be applied at a time.
So the tax rate in quebec would be 13.5%

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15 years 6 months ago [\#15390](#15390) by [MarkyMark](/forum/user/2377-markymark "View MarkyMark's Profile")  Replied by *[MarkyMark](/forum/user/2377-markymark "View MarkyMark's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#15390 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

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15 years 5 months ago [\#15780](#15780) by [MatthewSchenker](/forum/user/466-matthewschenker "View MatthewSchenker's Profile")  Replied by *[MatthewSchenker](/forum/user/466-matthewschenker "View MatthewSchenker's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#15780 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Hello,
Funny, I was just about to ask a similar question, as I have a client who needs the same thing.

Combining the two taxes is a pretty good solution, but I'd like to itemize each tax in the checkout, so customers can see what the costs are for.

Is it possible to perhaps ad Canada's national tax as an "automatic product" of some kind, then calculate the regional tax separately?

I continue to be impressed by HikaShop!

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15 years 5 months ago [\#15796](#15796) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")  Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#15796 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Well, the proper solution would be to be able to have several taxes possible and then display all of them separately...But that would need to rework the tax system ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/8.png ":)") It's on the todo list but not a priority for now...

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15 years 4 months ago [\#18791](#18791) by [timber11](/forum/user/1191-timber11 "View timber11's Profile")  Replied by *[timber11](/forum/user/1191-timber11 "View timber11's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#18791 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Just a correction for future Quebec and Canada taxes inquiries. The Quebec tax (8.5%) is a compound tax. To charge your clients Quebec customers the correct sales tax you need to use 13.925% and not 13.5% (which is just the two taxes added together). My Quebec client is very happy with Hikashop. I don't expect separate taxes let alone compound taxes (yikes!) any time soon. But this is a good work around (even if it is frowned upon by impot Quebec).

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15 years 2 months ago [\#22572](#22572) by [sderrico](/forum/user/1152-sderrico "View sderrico's Profile")  Replied by *[sderrico](/forum/user/1152-sderrico "View sderrico's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#22572 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Hello,

I have the same issue. Is it planned to implement in a near future?

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Have a great day!
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15 years 2 months ago [\#22593](#22593) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")  Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#22593 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Hi,

No news no that feature for now.

We worked on a lot of other things for the last release and we already have other priorities for next release.

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14 years 9 months ago [\#37132](#37132) by [panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")  Replied by *[panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#37132 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Any news on this? It would be very nice to have a Native Joomla shopping cart we could use in Quebec.

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14 years 9 months ago [\#37235](#37235) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")  Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#37235 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Multiple taxes support has finally been added in the latest release of HikaShop that we did this week. There is now a "cumulative tax" option that you can turn on when creating tax rules in order to handle cumulative taxes like in Canada.

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14 years 8 months ago [\#41410](#41410) by [panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")  Replied by *[panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#41410 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

OMG, I only just found out because I wasn't subscribed to this topic. I'm gonna try this version ASAP. Thanks so much for doing this.

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14 years 7 months ago -  14 years 7 months ago [\#41554](#41554) by [panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")  Replied by *[panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#41554 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

I see the cumulative option, but I only see the first tax appear and not the second one which needs to be cumulatively added. Is there a how to on setting up dual taxes?

Lets say I have a presence in all provinces of Canada, how would I set up the following list of rates?

Alberta GST 5%
British Columbia HST 12%
Manitoba GST 5% PST 7% not compounded
New Brunswick HST 13%
Newfoundland and Labrador HST 13%
Northwest Territories GST 5%
Nova Scotia HST 15%
Nunavut GST GST 5%
Ontario HST GST 5% PST 8% not compounded
Prince Edward Island GST 5% PST 10% compounded
Quebec GST 5% QST 9.5% compounded
Saskatchewan GST 5% PST 10% not compounded
Yukon GST 5%

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14 years 7 months ago [\#41683](#41683) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")  Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#41683 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

For Canada, all the taxes should be cumulative I think, unless I'm missing something.

Just create tax rules with the corresponding state as zone, the correct tax rate selected and the default tax category selected and the cumulative option turned on.

Then, if the address of the user is in that zone, the tax should be applied automatically during the checkout.

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14 years 7 months ago [\#41808](#41808) by [panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")  Replied by *[panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#41808 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

No, cumulative is only applied in a few provinces. Some have one tax rate, some have 2, some are cumulative and others aren't. It's enough to drive anyone crazy.

For now I am just focusing on Quebec, because I live there and it has the most bizarre sales tax construct, 2 taxes for which the second one is cumulative.

I use the default tax category to which I added 2 rules, both set to geographical zone Quebec 864. The first rule is the 5% GST and the second is 9.5% QST, which is the cumulative second tax.

I have a customer set up with Canada and Quebec in the profile, but only the first tax (5% GST) gets applied. The second (9.5&amp; QST) is nowhere to be found.

What am I doing wrong? I added screen shots as well so you can see.

Thanks for the help so far!

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14 years 7 months ago [\#41810](#41810) by [panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")  Replied by *[panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#41810 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Okay, I got one step further and I mixed up 2 words. Cumulative and compounded, I do apologize for that. In order to get the 2 taxes to show, both taxes need to be set to cumulative. If you don't set the first tax rate to cumulative as well, the second rate won't show. So that is fixed and works beautifully.

However and that is the big trick where I mixed cumulative and compounded. in Quebec, the tax is not only cumulative, but compounded as well.

So an article which is 100 dollars shows like this when cumulative but not compounded.

article: $100
GST 5%: $5
PST 9.5%: $9.50
total: $114.50

In Quebec the same needs to be calculated as follows:

article: $100.00
GST: ($100 × 5%) $5.00
QST: ([$100 + $5] × 9.5%) $9.98
Total: $114.98

So the second tax gets applied on the price of the article together with the first tax.

How would I do that?

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14 years 7 months ago [\#41850](#41850) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")  Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#41850 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

You need to adapt the tax rate. Your PST tax rate should actually be 9.98%
You can still keep the tax namekey of that tax rate to "PST 9.5%" so that it displays like you want.

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14 years 7 months ago [\#41852](#41852) by [panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")  Replied by *[panzerknacker](/forum/user/132-panzerknacker "View panzerknacker's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#41852 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

So simple, works perfectly. Finally a native Joomla shopping cart with proper tax support.

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14 years 6 months ago [\#47939](#47939) by [F22-Raptor](/forum/user/7221-f22-raptor "View F22-Raptor's Profile")  Replied by *[F22-Raptor](/forum/user/7221-f22-raptor "View F22-Raptor's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Configure tax in Quebec and Canada](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/15388-configure-tax-in-quebec-and-canada#47939 "Hello im have a hard time to configure the tax for the resident of quebec and canada. Taxe in Quebec (TVQ) 8.5% are in addition of canada (TPS) 5%. Can you send me a tip Thanks!")*

Hey Panzer, can you please provide the steps you took to create the taxes? I'm really new to HikaShop (as in I installed it today) and the thing that appealed to me the most was the taxes but I'm having a hard time figuring out how to do it properly. I'm in Ontario.

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Hi F22, isn't there just one tax rate now for Ontario? (HST) In that case all you have to do is set up one rate attached to the "state" Ontario.

I attached what I did for QC to test as screenshots. Hope it helps, but if it doesn't please give some more specific info.

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Oh I see, I'm so stupid, I didn't realize the province was a zone as well, I kept attaching the rate to Canada.

Thanks, I'll try it again.

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