[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # Is it neccesary to display VAT on delivery in UK? ## - **[daveburman54](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile")** - [![daveburman54's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54) Less More - Posts: 114 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 5 months ago [\#52794](#52794) by [daveburman54](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile") *[Is it neccesary to display VAT on delivery in UK?](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/52794-is-it-neccesary-to-display-vat-on-delivery-in-uk#52794 "I am creating 2 online shops based in UK using Hikashop (with help from Nicolas ;) ) that ship the UK only and was wondering if I am required by law or similar to show vat for shipping in checkout or...")* was created by *[daveburman54](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile")* I am creating 2 online shops based in UK using Hikashop (with help from Nicolas ![;)](/media/kunena/emoticons/24.png ";)") ) that ship the UK only and was wondering if I am required by law or similar to show vat for shipping in checkout or if I can just apply a flat fee and simply mention that the delivery cost includes VAT either in the terms & conditions page or somewhere visible on the website itself? I notice that some competitors dont mention it at all, some do add it and other simply have a flat fee and say that the VAT is included on the side of the site.... I just want to make sure!! I look forward to any replies on this! thanks Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzUyNzk0LWlzLWl0LW5lY2Nlc2FyeS10by1kaXNwbGF5LXZhdC1vbi1kZWxpdmVyeS1pbi11az90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[rikatos](/forum/user/1634-rikatos "View rikatos's Profile")** - [![rikatos's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/1634-rikatos "View rikatos's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/1634-rikatos) Less More - Posts: 179 - Thank you received: 17 - - - [](http://oceansafety.com) - 14 years 5 months ago [\#52817](#52817) by [rikatos](/forum/user/1634-rikatos "View rikatos's Profile") Replied by *[rikatos](/forum/user/1634-rikatos "View rikatos's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Is it neccesary to display VAT on delivery in UK?](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/52794-is-it-neccesary-to-display-vat-on-delivery-in-uk#52817 "I am creating 2 online shops based in UK using Hikashop (with help from Nicolas ;) ) that ship the UK only and was wondering if I am required by law or similar to show vat for shipping in checkout or...")* Well, it can be complicated (of course), presuming your client is VAT registered the safest thing to do is show a full VAT invoice all the time from your programing point of view (the rules is full invoice for £250 or over, simple invoice for £250 or under, but you can use full invoice from zero up ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)") ) below is extract from ukgov site : (the important bit, you need to know this regardless) A VAT invoice must show: an invoice number which is unique and follows on from the number of the previous invoice - if you spoil or cancel a serially numbered invoice, you must keep it to show to a VAT officer at your next VAT inspection the seller's name or trading name, and address the seller's VAT registration number the invoice date the time of supply (also known as tax point) if this is different from the invoice date - see below the customer's name or trading name, and address a description sufficient to identify the goods or services supplied to the customer For each different type of item listed on the invoice, you must show: the unit price or rate, excluding VAT the quantity of goods or the extent of the services the rate of VAT that applies to what's being sold the total amount payable, excluding VAT the rate of any cash discount the total amount of VAT charged If you issue a VAT invoice that includes zero-rated or exempt goods or services, you must: show clearly that there is no VAT payable on those goods or services show the total of those values separately If you make retail sales and you make a sale of goods or services for £250 or less including VAT you can issue a simplified VAT invoice – see the section in this guide on simplified VAT invoices. **Now the delivery part !** Postage, packing and delivery within the UK included in the sales contract but charged for separately, eg mail order has the same rate as the goods being delivered or posted Postage, packing and delivery within the UK charged as an optional extra is always standard-rated So safest option is to charge and show this on the invoice as standard rate (20% at the moment) ie. My company My Address VAT Num : my vat num Dated : todays date Item Unit Price Quantity Total Price (ex vat) (ex vat) My Goods £10.00 2 £20.00 Delivery £10.00 1 £10.00 TOTAL ex vat £30.00 VAT @ 20% £6.00 TOTAL inc vat £36.00 That will cover all bases ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)") Presuming trading address is the same as registered address, if not, that needs to be there as well. 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My company My Address VAT Num : my vat num Dated : todays date Item Unit Price Quantity Total Price (ex vat) (ex vat) My Goods £10.00 2 £20.00 Delivery £10.00 1 £10.00 TOTAL ex vat £30.00 VAT @ 20% £6.00 TOTAL inc vat £36.00 That will cover all bases ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)") Presuming trading address is the same as registered address, if not, that needs to be there as well. oops formatting removed example see attached - [ ![invoice.JPG](/forum/attachment/4137) ](/forum/attachment/4137 "invoice.JPG") [ ](/forum/attachment/4137?download=1 "invoice.JPG") Last edit: 14 years 5 months ago by [rikatos](/forum/user/1634-rikatos "View rikatos's Profile"). 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I am shocked that some pretty large companies are NOT showing the VAT on delivery at checkout... are they breaking the law? Also, for one of the sites I am creating, the client is NOT VAT registered so does that mean VAT on delivery is not needed? Last edit: 14 years 5 months ago by [daveburman54](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile"). 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Certain types of products (brochures arent taxed, but leaflets are etc) and certain types of delivery dont need to be taxed, but the way the rules work are if you didnt tax it and it should have been then you pay, so best to err on caution else you will be left out of pocket. Just to confuse everyone of course Postal services provided by the Post Office are exempt from VAT, but this exemption does not extend to similar services provided by other suppliers, even where this might be seen as being in direct competition with the Post Office. However, if any delivery charge you make to your own customers includes the cost of stamps you buy from the Post Office you may have to charge VAT on the whole amount including the cost of those stamps. Confusing huh, thats why you apply vat to all call it delivery and charge it, its worth it in the end. Of course if your company is under the VAT registration limit (currently £77,000) but hey, lets not go there ! So make sure you display all info on the attached, and you are sorted ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)") and yes, if hes not vat registered you cant charge VAT on anything on the invoice, as you cant display a vat number etc. (ps Im not a expert by any means, just ran my own business for many years!) Last edit: 14 years 5 months ago by [rikatos](/forum/user/1634-rikatos "View rikatos's Profile"). The following user(s) said Thank You: [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzUyNzk0LWlzLWl0LW5lY2Nlc2FyeS10by1kaXNwbGF5LXZhdC1vbi1kZWxpdmVyeS1pbi11az90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[daveburman54](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile")** - [![daveburman54's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54) Less More - Posts: 114 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 5 months ago - 14 years 5 months ago [\#52900](#52900) by [daveburman54](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile") Replied by *[daveburman54](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Is it neccesary to display VAT on delivery in UK?](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/52794-is-it-neccesary-to-display-vat-on-delivery-in-uk#52900 "I am creating 2 online shops based in UK using Hikashop (with help from Nicolas ;) ) that ship the UK only and was wondering if I am required by law or similar to show vat for shipping in checkout or...")* thanks guys... great replies to my questions.. ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)") Last edit: 14 years 5 months ago by [daveburman54](/forum/user/4566-daveburman54 "View daveburman54's Profile"). 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