[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # Free shipping costs as of a certain amount ## - **[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")** - [![bcnx's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/7761-bcnx) Less More - Posts: 41 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 1 month ago [\#66205](#66205) by [bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") *[Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#66205 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* was created by *[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")* Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")** - [![Mohamed Thelji's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar6861.png)](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji) Less More - Posts: 12953 - Thank you received: 1778 - - - 14 years 1 month ago [\#66257](#66257) by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") Replied by *[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#66257 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* Hi, I didn't really understood your question, can you please tell me what you exactly want to know ? ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")** - [![bcnx's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/7761-bcnx) Less More - Posts: 41 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 1 month ago [\#66267](#66267) by [bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Replied by *[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#66267 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* OK Mohamed, no problem, allow me to elaborate. The webshop I'm building now wants to encourage buyers to spend more than, let's day, 100 euros by making the shipping costs free with an amount bigger than 100 euros excluding TVA. I created two rules for that: 1. < 99 euro -> shipping cost of 10 euro 2. > 100 euro -> no shipping cost I noticed for this to be effective, I had to use a maximum and minimum price INCLUDING TVA for the rules (or shipments methods). No problem there. BUT. This webshop also aims at customers outside of our country and those to not have to pay TVA when they have a European TVA number. So for them it should not be a maximum and minimum price including TVA, but I can't seem to differentiate into those. Is this more clear? thx, BC Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")** - [![Mohamed Thelji's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar6861.png)](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji) Less More - Posts: 12953 - Thank you received: 1778 - - - 14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 1 month ago [\#66342](#66342) by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") Replied by *[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#66342 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* Thanks it's more clear now ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)"), I think that you should : - Create 2 shipping method for **taxed** country - Create 2 shipping method for **non-taxed** country You'll be able to do it by using the **zone** option of you shipping method configuration. Last edit: 14 years 1 month ago by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")** - [![bcnx's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/7761-bcnx) Less More - Posts: 41 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 1 month ago [\#66364](#66364) by [bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Replied by *[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#66364 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* That would be a nice solution, except for the fact that for the same country you have customers with and without tax. This depends on whether they have or do not have a European tax number or not. That is the root of the problem: if the shipping costs rule is determined on the assumption that people always pay taxes, it is wrongly calculated for those who do not have to pay taxes. BC Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")** - [![Mohamed Thelji's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar6861.png)](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji) Less More - Posts: 12953 - Thank you received: 1778 - - - 14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 1 month ago [\#66404](#66404) by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") Replied by *[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#66404 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* Then my solution would be to : - Edit your "*'Your Hikashop'\\plugins\\hikashopshipping\\manual\\manual.php*" file - Change the lines : Code: $price_all = $order->total->prices[0]->price_value_with_tax; if(isset($order->full_total->prices[0]->price_value_without_shipping_with_tax)){ $price_all = $order->full_total->prices[0]->price_value_without_shipping_with_tax; } by Code: $price_all = $order->total->prices[0]->price_value; if(isset($order->full_total->prices[0]->price_value_without_shipping)){ $price_all = $order->full_total->prices[0]->price_value_without_shipping; } Hope this will help you. Last edit: 14 years 1 month ago by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")** - [![bcnx's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/7761-bcnx) Less More - Posts: 41 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 1 month ago [\#67366](#67366) by [bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Replied by *[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#67366 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* This seems to be working, thx !!! Maybe this should be a default way of handling shipping cost, my situation is probably a reflection of what is to be considered common. cheers, BC Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png?1793428657)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Away](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86323 - Thank you received: 14283 - - 14 years 1 month ago [\#67476](#67476) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#67476 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* We were actually doing it the other way around before and several users requested that we do it the way we do now. I'm afraid that we'll have you add YAO (yet another option) for that. Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")** - [![bcnx's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/7761-bcnx) Less More - Posts: 41 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 1 month ago [\#68387](#68387) by [bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Replied by *[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#68387 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* On second thought the altered code does not seem to work as expected. The amount that should be checked is the amount VAT excluded. Is Mohammed's code then still accurate? Shouldn't it be something like "price_value_without_shipping_without_tax" ? thx, BC Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")** - [![bcnx's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/7761-bcnx) Less More - Posts: 41 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 1 month ago [\#68392](#68392) by [bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Replied by *[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#68392 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* OK, something sinks in now: there are two manual.php plugins. Is 'Your Hikashop' in "'Your Hikashop'\plugins\hikashopshipping\manual\manual.php" the root of the Joomla install? thx, BC Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")** - [![bcnx's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/7761-bcnx) Less More - Posts: 41 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 1 month ago [\#68397](#68397) by [bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile") Replied by *[bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Free shipping costs as of a certain amount](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/66205-free-shipping-costs-as-of-a-certain-amount#68397 "Hi, to get this done, I defined a shipping method that taxes shipping costs when the maximum price is not reached. My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* More info: bij changing the manual.php in joomla_root/plugins/hikashopshipping/manual the code only seems succesfull in this case: - other EU country while having a VAT number (VAT not added) in these cases: - own country (VAT included) - other EU country while not having a VAT number (VAT added) it does not work and the VAT included price is used for the calculation. So it seems the code looks at the wrong number. What do I need to change to have the price VAT excluded be looked at for the shipment price calculation? cheers, BC Last edit: 14 years 1 month ago by [bcnx](/forum/user/7761-bcnx "View bcnx's Profile"). 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My question concerns this maximum price: trial and error seems to point out that an amount WITH TVA needs to be specified here. Is this correct? Also, what happens if a company does not need to pay taxes because they are in another EU country and have an European TVA number. I have TVA rules for that in place, but I'm a bit lost as to what logic is used in relation to the maximum price defined in the manual shipping method. Thx again for this magnificent product, BC")* OK, I think I found it by manipulating the code as such: Code: $price_all = $order->total->prices[0]->price_value; if(isset($order->full_total->prices[0]->price_value_without_shipping_with_tax)){ $price_all = $order->full_total->prices[0]->price_value; } To whom it may concern ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzY2MjA1LWZyZWUtc2hpcHBpbmctY29zdHMtYXMtb2YtYS1jZXJ0YWluLWFtb3VudD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. 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