[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # Still looks terrible ## - **[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")** - [![zlenko's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/gallery/guitar.gif)](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/2047-zlenko) Less More - Posts: 115 - Thank you received: 8 - - - - [](http://ibaby.com.ua) - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115001](#115001) by [zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") Replied by *[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115001 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* > lionel75 wrote: here a link about designer view about boostrap > [ Please stop using Twitter Bootstrap](http://css.dzone.com/articles/please-stop-using-twitter) lionel75, quality standard design is much better than no design ![:-)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":-)") --- my project [ ibaby.com.ua](http://ibaby.com.ua) Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzgzOTkzLXN0aWxsLWxvb2tzLXRlcnJpYmxlP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")** - [![zlenko's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/gallery/guitar.gif)](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/2047-zlenko) Less More - Posts: 115 - Thank you received: 8 - - - - [](http://ibaby.com.ua) - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115003](#115003) by [zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") Replied by *[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115003 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* I propose to consider as a framework for Hikashop [ getuikit.com/](http://getuikit.com/) UIkit offers over 30 modular and extendible components, which can be combined with each other. [ getuikit.com/docs/components.html](http://getuikit.com/docs/components.html) UIkit is open source and MIT licensed. It is absolutely free of charge and you can use, copy, merge, publish and distribute the framework without any limitations. --- my project [ ibaby.com.ua](http://ibaby.com.ua) Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzgzOTkzLXN0aWxsLWxvb2tzLXRlcnJpYmxlP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")** - [![zlenko's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/gallery/guitar.gif)](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/2047-zlenko) Less More - Posts: 115 - Thank you received: 8 - - - - [](http://ibaby.com.ua) - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115011](#115011) by [zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") Replied by *[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115011 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* Аbout uikit [ www.yootheme.com/blog/2013/07/19/uikit-released](http://www.yootheme.com/blog/2013/07/19/uikit-released) --- my project [ ibaby.com.ua](http://ibaby.com.ua) The following user(s) said Thank You: [Eliot](/forum/user/1824-eliot "View Eliot's Profile"), [Xavier](/forum/user/4105-xavier "View Xavier's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzgzOTkzLXN0aWxsLWxvb2tzLXRlcnJpYmxlP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")** - [![zlenko's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/gallery/guitar.gif)](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/2047-zlenko) Less More - Posts: 115 - Thank you received: 8 - - - - [](http://ibaby.com.ua) - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115193](#115193) by [zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") Replied by *[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115193 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* Demonstrate the use of uikit: [ yoocore.com/demo/themes/joomla/2013/nano...x.php/features/uikit](http://yoocore.com/demo/themes/joomla/2013/nano3/index.php/features/uikit) Simple and elegant ! --- my project [ ibaby.com.ua](http://ibaby.com.ua) Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzgzOTkzLXN0aWxsLWxvb2tzLXRlcnJpYmxlP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png?1793428657)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Away](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86541 - Thank you received: 14304 - - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115236](#115236) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115236 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* Thank you for the reference. We'll however continue to work on the compatibility with bootstrap since it's the choice that the Joomla project made. The main reason is that by being compatible with it, HikaShop will integrate better with joomla templates and thus reduce custom styling work for everyone. Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzgzOTkzLXN0aWxsLWxvb2tzLXRlcnJpYmxlP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")** - [![zlenko's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/gallery/guitar.gif)](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/2047-zlenko) Less More - Posts: 115 - Thank you received: 8 - - - - [](http://ibaby.com.ua) - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115252](#115252) by [zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") Replied by *[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115252 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* This is correct, but the bootstrap offers a limited set of user interface components. In Uikit the number of required components more. --- my project [ ibaby.com.ua](http://ibaby.com.ua) Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzgzOTkzLXN0aWxsLWxvb2tzLXRlcnJpYmxlP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")** - [![zlenko's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/gallery/guitar.gif)](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/2047-zlenko) Less More - Posts: 115 - Thank you received: 8 - - - - [](http://ibaby.com.ua) - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115392](#115392) by [zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile") Replied by *[zlenko](/forum/user/2047-zlenko "View zlenko's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115392 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* Learn more about the best practices for creating your own UIkit theme: [ www.yootheme.com/blog/2013/07/23/theming-with-uikit](http://www.yootheme.com/blog/2013/07/23/theming-with-uikit) --- my project [ ibaby.com.ua](http://ibaby.com.ua) Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzgzOTkzLXN0aWxsLWxvb2tzLXRlcnJpYmxlP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")** - [![Jerome's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar80.png)](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/80-jerome) - HikaShop core developer Less More - Posts: 26400 - Thank you received: 4079 - - [](http://obsi.dev) - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115414](#115414) by [Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") Replied by *[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115414 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* Hi, HikaShop proposes two different design styles: "Classical" and "Bootstrap". It is twice more than a lot of other system and the first one is not so bad for templating. As Nicolas said. Bootstrap has been chosen by Joomla and if we want to be compatible with Joomla 3 (and more) we have to use bootstrap too. But you can just change an option in HikaShop and not use bootstrap anymore. Regards, --- Jerome - Obsidev.com HikaMarket & HikaSerial developer / HikaShop core dev team. 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Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* Option "Bootstrap" I like more than the "Classical" design ![:-)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":-)") Alternatively one could make the "Classical" design version with UIkit ![:-)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":-)") --- my project [ ibaby.com.ua](http://ibaby.com.ua) Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzItZ2VuZXJhbC10YWxrLWFib3V0LWhpa2FzaG9wLzgzOTkzLXN0aWxsLWxvb2tzLXRlcnJpYmxlP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")** - [![lionel75's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/11856-lionel75) Less More - Posts: 846 - Thank you received: 92 - - 13 years 3 months ago - 13 years 3 months ago [\#115605](#115605) by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") Replied by *[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")* on topic *[Still looks terrible](/forum/2-general-talk-about-hikashop/83993-still-looks-terrible?start=20#115605 "What i don't get about hikashop, is that even after a couple of years of being established when you install the extension, it looks absolutely terrible and clunky. Category and Product pages are just crap. Why don't the hika team spend some time and have their front end looking good out of the box. You shouldn't have to spend hours on css to try and make it look like a normal shopping cart. I even bought the styles packages but they just look old and outdated.")* the problem seem that use predefine id class name use by a css framework prevent you to use another framework !!! I think there is no easy way to swicht from css framework to another one ! The id/class name are in the php code ( right ? ) so joomla must use dynamic id/class ? but the html tree can be different beetween css framework ! if you want to custom a template that use boostrap or another one that don't use boostrap ( flat UI, predefine tamplate not link to css framework ) ... the work is the same. My review is that boostrap for designer is really vapor ware ( why learn photoshop dreamweaver illustrator ...during 3 or more years ) but for php and hikashop beginner it is a must have !!! Joomla 3.0 ll use boostrap for backend, nothing force developper ( designer !? see after comment ) of extension to use boostrap !! before boostrap , joomla have to use css/raster /javascrit in the back and Front end and it work's ..... Thank's zlenko a lot for UI kit information , it is the way i ll go but this need to study "All" the way to custom each HTML elemement since s same rendering can use many differents techniques (mix of css , raster, svg , javascript, ) . Last edit: 13 years 3 months ago by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile"). 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