[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # Update Hikashop v2.6.1 to v2.6.2 content module ## - **[s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile")** - [![s19k15's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/39083-s19k15) Less More - Posts: 9 - Thank you received: 0 - - 10 years 6 months ago [\#235961](#235961) by [s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile") *[Update Hikashop v2.6.1 to v2.6.2 content module](/forum/25-install-update/883734-update-hikashop-v2-6-1-to-v2-6-2-content-module#235961 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.2 -- Joomla version -- : 3.4.5 -- PHP version -- : 5.6 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : White Page After update Hikashop from v2.6.1 to v2.6.2 the website is unable to load the page. I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* was created by *[s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile")* -- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.2 -- Joomla version -- : 3.4.5 -- PHP version -- : 5.6 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : White Page After update Hikashop from v2.6.1 to v2.6.2 the website is unable to load the page. I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that? 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Hi, We actually completely redone the listing_pane view file so that it doesn't require mootools at all anymore and it works with CSS. I see however that your template compress the CSS on your website, so it would explain why it doesn't work after the update since your template isn't using the new version of the CSS of HikaShop. I would recommend to turn off the CSS compression of your template and see if that helps. 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Thanks for the response. I disabled the css optimise which compress the css but steel the same. I get a white page with one arrow of hikashop content module slider. 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Hi, So if you turn on the "error reporting" setting of your Joomla configuration and try again, what error message do you get on that white page ? 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Hi, the error reporting to maximum gave the following. Fatal error: Can't use method return value in write context in .../public_html/sites/colorcopy3d-gr/components/com_hikashop/views/product/tmpl/listing_img_pane.php on line 22 Last edit: 10 years 6 months ago by [s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile"). 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Hi, Please edit the indicated file and replace the line 22 from: Code: if(!empty($this->params->get('pane_height',''))) By: Code: if($this->params->get('pane_height','') != '') The following user(s) said Thank You: [spotstv](/forum/user/10299-spotstv "View spotstv's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI1LWluc3RhbGwtdXBkYXRlLzg4MzczNC11cGRhdGUtaGlrYXNob3AtdjItNi0xLXRvLXYyLTYtMi1jb250ZW50LW1vZHVsZT90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile")** - [![s19k15's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/39083-s19k15) Less More - Posts: 9 - Thank you received: 0 - - 10 years 6 months ago - 10 years 6 months ago [\#236707](#236707) by [s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile") Replied by *[s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile")* on topic *[Update Hikashop v2.6.1 to v2.6.2 content module](/forum/25-install-update/883734-update-hikashop-v2-6-1-to-v2-6-2-content-module#236707 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.2 -- Joomla version -- : 3.4.5 -- PHP version -- : 5.6 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : White Page After update Hikashop from v2.6.1 to v2.6.2 the website is unable to load the page. I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* I will give it a try. Also it will be nice to add a feature that makes module content fullwidth and display products by size of sceen, so then it will be resisable based on template. Last edit: 10 years 6 months ago by [s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile"). 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Ok it is woriking, thanks a lot! Also this change must done in files: listing_fade.php listing_img_pane.php listing_slider_horizontal.php listing_slider_vertical.php Please also think my suggestion about the resizing. 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Also i want to report an another problem in same content module. The links to the products inludes path /content/hikashop/ when they are displayed on other pages than the eshop menu even i have enable sef urls. If they are displayed in eshop menu then the links looks right. These are my settings... Simplified breadcrumbs Yes Remove products and categories id in URLs Yes Remove cart id in URLs Yes Alias automatic filling Yes Last edit: 10 years 6 months ago by [s19k15](/forum/user/39083-s19k15 "View s19k15's Profile"). 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Hi, Could you give us more precision about what you mean by "resizable based on template" ? Actually, if you enable the "bootstrap mode" option in Configuration > Display and you have a template compatible with bootstrap **2** the layout will be responsive. So if you have 3 columns, on smartphones there will be only one column. Regarding the url, you have to select a menu for the "menu" option in your module settings. Or use the canonical urls feature. Last edit: 10 years 6 months ago by [Xavier](/forum/user/4105-xavier "View Xavier's Profile"). 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Thanks urls are working! For "resizable based on template" i mean that content module could display products based on width and not columns. For example when i resize the window in my browser and template width is not standart but relative the content module could display products to fill the width of template, it is ok if the last product displayed as half and not complete... 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I see a white page with an arrow of hikashop content module (slider) but nothing else. In source code i see only code of this conent module, so i disable the slider and the page was able to load. I noticed that the problem is caused in layaout settings of content module (slider) when user selects image_pane, and many other options. Can i fix that?")* Hi, So you don't want responsive design ? When resizing, the products must not be changed to one column but stay to fit the full width of the template ? If it is, you have to disable the "Enable bootstrap" option. Else, a screenshot could help me to understand the situation. Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI1LWluc3RhbGwtdXBkYXRlLzg4MzczNC11cGRhdGUtaGlrYXNob3AtdjItNi0xLXRvLXYyLTYtMi1jb250ZW50LW1vZHVsZT90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. 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