[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # FedEx Shipping - completely lost ## - **[byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile")** - [![byoguru's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/11107-byoguru) Less More - Posts: 99 - Thank you received: 5 - - 13 years 1 day ago [\#132320](#132320) by [byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") *[FedEx Shipping - completely lost](/forum/28-shipping-methods/863601-fedex-shipping-completely-lost#132320 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21 -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done")* was created by *[byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile")* -- url of the page with the problem -- : [ dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21](http://dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21) -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: [ www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form](http://www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/136-hikashop-shipping-fedex-form) [ www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex\_opt11.jpg](http://www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg) 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI4LXNoaXBwaW5nLW1ldGhvZHMvODYzNjAxLWZlZGV4LXNoaXBwaW5nLWNvbXBsZXRlbHktbG9zdD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")** - [![Mohamed Thelji's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar6861.png)](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji) Less More - Posts: 12953 - Thank you received: 1778 - - - 13 years 17 hours ago [\#132365](#132365) by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") Replied by *[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")* on topic *[FedEx Shipping - completely lost](/forum/28-shipping-methods/863601-fedex-shipping-completely-lost#132365 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21 -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done")* Hi, 1. Following each step of the "shipping methods" section of the [ FAQ ](http://www.hikashop.com/support/faq.html#ship)will probably help you to solve your problem. 2. You'll find this option through the "restrictions" section of your FedEx configuration screen. 3. No, you can set a shipping zone only if you need to restrict the zones where you want your goods to be shipped. The following user(s) said Thank You: [byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI4LXNoaXBwaW5nLW1ldGhvZHMvODYzNjAxLWZlZGV4LXNoaXBwaW5nLWNvbXBsZXRlbHktbG9zdD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile")** - [![byoguru's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/11107-byoguru) Less More - Posts: 99 - Thank you received: 5 - - 13 years 7 hours ago [\#132486](#132486) by [byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Replied by *[byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile")* on topic *[FedEx Shipping - completely lost](/forum/28-shipping-methods/863601-fedex-shipping-completely-lost#132486 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21 -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done")* Mohamed, Thank you for that - have followed precisely to no avail. Unfortunately I have found some other errors when turning on DEBUG.... Seems like there are a number of things missing in my DB **In the ADMIN area:** administrator/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=edit&cid[]=137 500 - An error has occurred. JDatabaseMySQLi::query: 1146 - Table 'xxx_25j.j25_hikashop_shipping_price' doesn't exist SQL=SELECT b.*, a.*, c.currency_symbol FROM j25_hikashop_shipping AS a LEFT JOIN j25_hikashop_shipping_price AS b ON a.shipping_id = b.shipping_id AND b.shipping_price_ref_id = 137 INNER JOIN j25_hikashop_currency AS c ON c.currency_id = a.shipping_currency_id WHERE a.shipping_type = 'manual' AND a.shipping_params LIKE '%s:20:\"shipping_per_product\";s:1:\"1\"%' AND (b.shipping_price_ref_id IS NULL OR (b.shipping_price_ref_id = 137 AND b.shipping_price_ref_type = 'product')) ORDER BY a.shipping_id, b.shipping_price_min_quantity **On the front end at Checkout: 500 - JDatabaseMySQLi::query: 1146 - Table 'xxx.j25\_hikashop\_badge' doesn't exist SQL=SELECT a.\* FROM j25\_hikashop\_badge AS a WHERE a.badge\_start <= 1384455751 AND ( a.badge\_end >= 1384455751 OR a.badge\_end =0 ) AND a.badge\_published=1 AND (a.badge\_quantity='' OR a.badge\_quantity=-1) AND (badge\_discount\_id=0 OR badge\_discount\_id=0 )AND ((badge\_category\_childs = 0 AND (badge\_category\_id = 0 OR badge\_category\_id = 27))OR (badge\_category\_childs = 1 AND (badge\_category\_id=0 OR badge\_category\_id = 1 OR badge\_category\_id = 2 OR badge\_category\_id = 27))) ORDER BY a.badge\_ordering ASC,a.badge\_id ASC **\*\* I Just updated to Business Edition \*\*\*** Here is a list of ALL the hikashop tables in my db: j25\_hikashop\_address j25\_hikashop\_banner j25\_hikashop\_cart j25\_hikashop\_cart\_product j25\_hikashop\_category j25\_hikashop\_characteristic j25\_hikashop\_click j25\_hikashop\_config j25\_hikashop\_currency j25\_hikashop\_discount j25\_hikashop\_download j25\_hikashop\_entry j25\_hikashop\_field j25\_hikashop\_file j25\_hikashop\_filter j25\_hikashop\_geolocation j25\_hikashop\_history j25\_hikashop\_limit j25\_hikashop\_order j25\_hikashop\_order\_product j25\_hikashop\_payment j25\_hikashop\_price j25\_hikashop\_product j25\_hikashop\_product\_category j25\_hikashop\_product\_related j25\_hikashop\_shipping j25\_hikashop\_tax j25\_hikashop\_taxation j25\_hikashop\_user j25\_hikashop\_variant j25\_hikashop\_waitlist j25\_hikashop\_widget j25\_hikashop\_zone j25\_hikashop\_zone\_link Thank you!** Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI4LXNoaXBwaW5nLW1ldGhvZHMvODYzNjAxLWZlZGV4LXNoaXBwaW5nLWNvbXBsZXRlbHktbG9zdD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")** - [![Mohamed Thelji's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar6861.png)](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji) Less More - Posts: 12953 - Thank you received: 1778 - - - 12 years 11 months ago [\#132535](#132535) by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") Replied by *[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")* on topic *[FedEx Shipping - completely lost](/forum/28-shipping-methods/863601-fedex-shipping-completely-lost#132535 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21 -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done")* Ok, so can you download the last Hikashop version through our website, install it, and test it again ? Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI4LXNoaXBwaW5nLW1ldGhvZHMvODYzNjAxLWZlZGV4LXNoaXBwaW5nLWNvbXBsZXRlbHktbG9zdD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile")** - [![byoguru's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/11107-byoguru) Less More - Posts: 99 - Thank you received: 5 - - 12 years 11 months ago - 12 years 11 months ago [\#132613](#132613) by [byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Replied by *[byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile")* on topic *[FedEx Shipping - completely lost](/forum/28-shipping-methods/863601-fedex-shipping-completely-lost#132613 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21 -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done")* I actually JUST did that.... BUT OK - I will do this step again.. Downloading Business version now and installing. EDIT **When going to a product on the front end:** ERROR 500 - JDatabaseMySQLi::query: 1146 - Table 'xxx.j25_hikashop_badge' doesn't exist SQL=SELECT a.* FROM j25_hikashop_badge AS a WHERE a.badge_start <= 1384537163 AND ( a.badge_end >= 1384537163 OR a.badge_end =0 ) AND a.badge_published=1 AND (a.badge_quantity='' OR a.badge_quantity=-1) AND (badge_discount_id=0 OR badge_discount_id=0 )AND ((badge_category_childs = 0 AND (badge_category_id = 0 OR badge_category_id = 27))OR (badge_category_childs = 1 AND (badge_category_id=0 OR badge_category_id = 1 OR badge_category_id = 2 OR badge_category_id = 27))) ORDER BY a.badge_ordering ASC,a.badge_id ASC **WHen going to a product on the BACK END + when making a NEW Product** 500 - An error has occurred. JDatabaseMySQLi::query: 1146 - Table 'xxx.j25_hikashop_shipping_price' doesn't exist SQL=SELECT b.*, a.*, c.currency_symbol FROM j25_hikashop_shipping AS a LEFT JOIN j25_hikashop_shipping_price AS b ON a.shipping_id = b.shipping_id AND b.shipping_price_ref_id = 137 INNER JOIN j25_hikashop_currency AS c ON c.currency_id = a.shipping_currency_id WHERE a.shipping_type = 'manual' AND a.shipping_params LIKE '%s:20:\"shipping_per_product\";s:1:\"1\"%' AND (b.shipping_price_ref_id IS NULL OR (b.shipping_price_ref_id = 137 AND b.shipping_price_ref_type = 'product')) ORDER BY a.shipping_id, b.shipping_price_min_quantity Last edit: 12 years 11 months ago by [byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI4LXNoaXBwaW5nLW1ldGhvZHMvODYzNjAxLWZlZGV4LXNoaXBwaW5nLWNvbXBsZXRlbHktbG9zdD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")** - [![Jerome's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar80.png)](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/80-jerome) - HikaShop core developer Less More - Posts: 26400 - Thank you received: 4080 - - [](http://obsi.dev) - 12 years 11 months ago [\#132638](#132638) by [Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") Replied by *[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")* on topic *[FedEx Shipping - completely lost](/forum/28-shipping-methods/863601-fedex-shipping-completely-lost#132638 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21 -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done")* Hi, You had a mysql problem (I guess permission) with an HikaShop update. So you have some missing tables and I think, some missing column in some HikaShop tables. You have to create this tables manually by executing the SQL script in the HikaShop package. For the missing column, the problem is that, we can't check easily. So the best is to know from which version you upgrade your HikaShop in order to know which columns we have to check. Regards, --- Jerome - Obsidev.com HikaMarket & HikaSerial developer / HikaShop core dev team. 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As to columns that might be missing... I do not know. I believe I FIRST installed: com_hikashop_essential_2.1.0 then updated to com_hikashop_essential_2.2.0 then com_hikashop_business_2.2.0 *Please note however I was not actively setting up the FedEX shipping plugin until 2.2.0 so I do not know if the issue was there in 2.1.0 in our case **Is there any method to confirm all the tables and the correct columns have been created? - if we do did not have any products in the DB it would be easy to start with a clean install - but we have data already. Please let me know how to do this check- thanks again.** Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI4LXNoaXBwaW5nLW1ldGhvZHMvODYzNjAxLWZlZGV4LXNoaXBwaW5nLWNvbXBsZXRlbHktbG9zdD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")** - [![Jerome's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar80.png)](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/80-jerome) - HikaShop core developer Less More - Posts: 26400 - Thank you received: 4080 - - [](http://obsi.dev) - 12 years 11 months ago [\#132754](#132754) by [Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") Replied by *[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")* on topic *[FedEx Shipping - completely lost](/forum/28-shipping-methods/863601-fedex-shipping-completely-lost#132754 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21 -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done")* Hi, The SQL file you have used contains all HikaShop tables with all default columns. When you have some custom field (product, item, order, etc) it will create new columns. So you have to compare your tables in your database with the definition in the SQL file. If you have a missing column, it means that you will have to create it. If you have an extra column, it should be a custom field (it all cases, you have to keep it). The order of the column don't have any importance. It is the best way I know to be sure that the database is right up to date. Regards, --- Jerome - Obsidev.com HikaMarket & HikaSerial developer / HikaShop core dev team. The following user(s) said Thank You: [byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI4LXNoaXBwaW5nLW1ldGhvZHMvODYzNjAxLWZlZGV4LXNoaXBwaW5nLWNvbXBsZXRlbHktbG9zdD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile")** - [![byoguru's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/11107-byoguru) Less More - Posts: 99 - Thank you received: 5 - - 12 years 11 months ago [\#132762](#132762) by [byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile") Replied by *[byoguru](/forum/user/11107-byoguru "View byoguru's Profile")* on topic *[FedEx Shipping - completely lost](/forum/28-shipping-methods/863601-fedex-shipping-completely-lost#132762 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : dev.explorationgeochem.com/j25/index.php/blanks-21 -- HikaShop version -- : 2.2.2 -- Joomla version -- : 2.5.16 -- PHP version -- : 5.3.27 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome 31.0.1650.48 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : Error_message n/a 1) Cannot get FEDex shipping to show up on Checkout. 2) Cannot see "zone" selector as in this image in your docs: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-shipping-fedex-form www.hikashop.com/images/stories/fedex_opt11.jpg 3) Do I need to set up SHIPPING ZONES? - I do not see any documentation that says this must be done")* I am going to need to get some help to check this - I am at my limit of knowledge.... I am not a programmer. Would be great to have a script to check that everything in the DB is actually set up correctly. joomla has something similar and other paid components have as well. I hope this function is implemented ASAP - pretty vital for customers like me. Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzI4LXNoaXBwaW5nLW1ldGhvZHMvODYzNjAxLWZlZGV4LXNoaXBwaW5nLWNvbXBsZXRlbHktbG9zdD90bXBsPW1hcmtkb3du) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. 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