[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # An importing problem - product codes and variants ## - **[ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile")** - [![ondrejhajnik's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik) Less More - Posts: 6 - Thank you received: 1 - - 13 years 1 month ago [\#122793](#122793) by [ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") Replied by *[ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile")* on topic *[An importing problem - product codes and variants](/forum/4-how-to/19885-an-importing-problem-product-codes-and-variants?start=20#122793 "I really could use some help/advice about this problem. Here is a snippet showing some product codes from the very small company I'm working with ASU-W60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,White ASU-W60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,White ASU-W60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,White ASU-W60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,White ASU-B60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,Blue ASU-B60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,Blue ASU-B60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,Blue ASU-B60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,Blue The variants are coded in the existing product code - size (last char) and colour (5th char) When I import the products, new product codes are created for the variants which are different from the product codes currently in use. My reason for including the variants in the product file is that I wanted to include images for each of the variants like this. How do I get around this problem? The company is looking for an on-line catalog and, maybe eventually, on-line sales. Jim PS A further question. I don't understand product_parent_codes. They seem to imply that an item with a product_parent_code is an item that cannot be purchased with the product_parent code, just used internally in the program? For example, on your demo site, there are two product codes pink_shoes and pink_shoes_5_22, for the same item. I feel I must be missing something here.")* Hello, Can you please explain what is the relation betwen following table fields? - **product\_parent\_id** vs. **product code** Do I understand correnctly the variant takes the **product\_code of "main" to become variant´s product\_parent\_id**? Let´s say, product_parent_id of "main" product is its category ID. **Product\_parent\_id** of "variant" is its "main´s" product_code. Correct? Another question is: Do I have to use the table **hikashop\_characteristic** at all? I have about 22000 line items. About 85% of that number are variants which are rather difficult to be categorized into characteristics. I would wish to obey to use characteristics and instead, just to have MAIN product and link to selection of variants. Price is the same. What differs are size patterns and color patterns. They create too large number of variations. Thank you very much for the job you have done so far on Hikashop. Ondrej Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzE5ODg1LWFuLWltcG9ydGluZy1wcm9ibGVtLXByb2R1Y3QtY29kZXMtYW5kLXZhcmlhbnRzP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[Eliot](/forum/user/1824-eliot "View Eliot's Profile")** - [![Eliot's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1824.png)](/forum/user/1824-eliot "View Eliot's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/1824-eliot) Less More - Posts: 2334 - Thank you received: 403 - - 13 years 1 month ago [\#122825](#122825) by [Eliot](/forum/user/1824-eliot "View Eliot's Profile") Replied by *[Eliot](/forum/user/1824-eliot "View Eliot's Profile")* on topic *[An importing problem - product codes and variants](/forum/4-how-to/19885-an-importing-problem-product-codes-and-variants?start=20#122825 "I really could use some help/advice about this problem. Here is a snippet showing some product codes from the very small company I'm working with ASU-W60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,White ASU-W60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,White ASU-W60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,White ASU-W60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,White ASU-B60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,Blue ASU-B60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,Blue ASU-B60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,Blue ASU-B60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,Blue The variants are coded in the existing product code - size (last char) and colour (5th char) When I import the products, new product codes are created for the variants which are different from the product codes currently in use. My reason for including the variants in the product file is that I wanted to include images for each of the variants like this. How do I get around this problem? The company is looking for an on-line catalog and, maybe eventually, on-line sales. Jim PS A further question. I don't understand product_parent_codes. They seem to imply that an item with a product_parent_code is an item that cannot be purchased with the product_parent code, just used internally in the program? For example, on your demo site, there are two product codes pink_shoes and pink_shoes_5_22, for the same item. I feel I must be missing something here.")* Hi Ondrej, I think you didn't completely understood our table, let me make it clear ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)") The product_code is simply the real product code, the one used in Hikashop and is not related to the variants. However, the product_id of a main product indeed match the product_parent_id of the variant. The table hikashop_characteristic is useful if you plan to import your characteristics (which is obligatory if you have variants). Without the characteristics, Hikashop won't be able to generate the variants. So you can either recreate them before importing or copy the table in your new installation. You can also take a look at the Hikashop SQL structure if you want to know more about the relations between tables: [ www.hikashop.com/hikashop\_database.png](http://www.hikashop.com/hikashop_database.png) The following user(s) said Thank You: [ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzE5ODg1LWFuLWltcG9ydGluZy1wcm9ibGVtLXByb2R1Y3QtY29kZXMtYW5kLXZhcmlhbnRzP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile")** - [![ondrejhajnik's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik) Less More - Posts: 6 - Thank you received: 1 - - 13 years 1 month ago [\#123112](#123112) by [ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") Replied by *[ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile")* on topic *[An importing problem - product codes and variants](/forum/4-how-to/19885-an-importing-problem-product-codes-and-variants?start=20#123112 "I really could use some help/advice about this problem. Here is a snippet showing some product codes from the very small company I'm working with ASU-W60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,White ASU-W60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,White ASU-W60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,White ASU-W60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,White ASU-B60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,Blue ASU-B60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,Blue ASU-B60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,Blue ASU-B60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,Blue The variants are coded in the existing product code - size (last char) and colour (5th char) When I import the products, new product codes are created for the variants which are different from the product codes currently in use. My reason for including the variants in the product file is that I wanted to include images for each of the variants like this. How do I get around this problem? The company is looking for an on-line catalog and, maybe eventually, on-line sales. Jim PS A further question. I don't understand product_parent_codes. They seem to imply that an item with a product_parent_code is an item that cannot be purchased with the product_parent code, just used internally in the program? For example, on your demo site, there are two product codes pink_shoes and pink_shoes_5_22, for the same item. I feel I must be missing something here.")* Hi Eliot, Thank you very much for your clear explanation. I understand now the parent code is equal to product code of "main". The "variant" have always the parent code linked to "main" product code in the sequense of adding the suffix to product code of main. Also, thank you for the SQL DB structure. This will help me a lot. Kind regards, Ondrej Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzE5ODg1LWFuLWltcG9ydGluZy1wcm9ibGVtLXByb2R1Y3QtY29kZXMtYW5kLXZhcmlhbnRzP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile")** - [![ondrejhajnik's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik) Less More - Posts: 6 - Thank you received: 1 - - 13 years 1 month ago [\#123114](#123114) by [ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") Replied by *[ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile")* on topic *[An importing problem - product codes and variants](/forum/4-how-to/19885-an-importing-problem-product-codes-and-variants?start=20#123114 "I really could use some help/advice about this problem. Here is a snippet showing some product codes from the very small company I'm working with ASU-W60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,White ASU-W60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,White ASU-W60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,White ASU-W60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,White ASU-B60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,Blue ASU-B60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,Blue ASU-B60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,Blue ASU-B60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,Blue The variants are coded in the existing product code - size (last char) and colour (5th char) When I import the products, new product codes are created for the variants which are different from the product codes currently in use. My reason for including the variants in the product file is that I wanted to include images for each of the variants like this. How do I get around this problem? The company is looking for an on-line catalog and, maybe eventually, on-line sales. Jim PS A further question. I don't understand product_parent_codes. They seem to imply that an item with a product_parent_code is an item that cannot be purchased with the product_parent code, just used internally in the program? For example, on your demo site, there are two product codes pink_shoes and pink_shoes_5_22, for the same item. I feel I must be missing something here.")* Hi Eliot, I have one more question. Do you think not having the variants in the database but having the variant in the product table could block product listing module from displaying the products in the front end? Till now I can only display empty categories with no link futher to products listed. [ ![h7b3de90.png](/forum/attachment/12224) ](/forum/attachment/12224 "h7b3de90.png") - [ ![h7b3de90.png](/forum/attachment/12224) ](/forum/attachment/12224 "h7b3de90.png") [ ](/forum/attachment/12224?download=1 "h7b3de90.png") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzE5ODg1LWFuLWltcG9ydGluZy1wcm9ibGVtLXByb2R1Y3QtY29kZXMtYW5kLXZhcmlhbnRzP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")** - [![Jerome's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar80.png)](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/80-jerome) - HikaShop core developer Less More - Posts: 26394 - Thank you received: 4078 - - [](http://obsi.dev) - 13 years 1 month ago [\#123172](#123172) by [Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") Replied by *[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")* on topic *[An importing problem - product codes and variants](/forum/4-how-to/19885-an-importing-problem-product-codes-and-variants?start=20#123172 "I really could use some help/advice about this problem. Here is a snippet showing some product codes from the very small company I'm working with ASU-W60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,White ASU-W60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,White ASU-W60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,White ASU-W60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,White ASU-B60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,Blue ASU-B60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,Blue ASU-B60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,Blue ASU-B60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,Blue The variants are coded in the existing product code - size (last char) and colour (5th char) When I import the products, new product codes are created for the variants which are different from the product codes currently in use. My reason for including the variants in the product file is that I wanted to include images for each of the variants like this. How do I get around this problem? The company is looking for an on-line catalog and, maybe eventually, on-line sales. Jim PS A further question. I don't understand product_parent_codes. They seem to imply that an item with a product_parent_code is an item that cannot be purchased with the product_parent code, just used internally in the program? For example, on your demo site, there are two product codes pink_shoes and pink_shoes_5_22, for the same item. I feel I must be missing something here.")* Hi, I do not understand your message. Not having variants in the database but having the variants in the product table ? For your category listing, do you have a product listing module attached like explained in our tutorial ? [ www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/6...html#categories\_menu](http://www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/67-hikashop-content-display-front-end.html#categories_menu) Regards, --- Jerome - Obsidev.com HikaMarket & HikaSerial developer / HikaShop core dev team. Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzE5ODg1LWFuLWltcG9ydGluZy1wcm9ibGVtLXByb2R1Y3QtY29kZXMtYW5kLXZhcmlhbnRzP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile")** - [![ondrejhajnik's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik) Less More - Posts: 6 - Thank you received: 1 - - 13 years 1 month ago - 13 years 1 month ago [\#123673](#123673) by [ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile") Replied by *[ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile")* on topic *[An importing problem - product codes and variants](/forum/4-how-to/19885-an-importing-problem-product-codes-and-variants?start=20#123673 "I really could use some help/advice about this problem. Here is a snippet showing some product codes from the very small company I'm working with ASU-W60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,White ASU-W60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,White ASU-W60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,White ASU-W60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,White ASU-B60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,Blue ASU-B60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,Blue ASU-B60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,Blue ASU-B60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,Blue The variants are coded in the existing product code - size (last char) and colour (5th char) When I import the products, new product codes are created for the variants which are different from the product codes currently in use. My reason for including the variants in the product file is that I wanted to include images for each of the variants like this. How do I get around this problem? The company is looking for an on-line catalog and, maybe eventually, on-line sales. Jim PS A further question. I don't understand product_parent_codes. They seem to imply that an item with a product_parent_code is an item that cannot be purchased with the product_parent code, just used internally in the program? For example, on your demo site, there are two product codes pink_shoes and pink_shoes_5_22, for the same item. I feel I must be missing something here.")* Hi Jerome, I guess I found the cause of the problem. The module is there, of course. The problem is somewhere with hikashop_categories table. When I look at the back end products I can see the product to be inside category. However the category is not linked to Product category. In other words, at back end page of product I see only CATEGORY. I am sure I have not linked properly the categories to ROOT/Product Category/"some category". Please see the attached pics. Ondrej Just to add. Please note I need to upload the categories through sql. Therefore I cannot go through back end and add category, but insert the data into the tables. Also for products display. Products get displayed only after I go to product page on back end and clink on save button. There are no changes in the hikashop_product or hikashop_product_category tables. Is there any script what I could run to go through all the products and make them registered with the system? - [ ![h73f423f.png](/forum/attachment/12278) ](/forum/attachment/12278 "h73f423f.png") [ ](/forum/attachment/12278?download=1 "h73f423f.png") - [ ![h5013610.png](/forum/attachment/12279) ](/forum/attachment/12279 "h5013610.png") [ ](/forum/attachment/12279?download=1 "h5013610.png") Last edit: 13 years 1 month ago by [ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile"). Reason: adding details Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzE5ODg1LWFuLWltcG9ydGluZy1wcm9ibGVtLXByb2R1Y3QtY29kZXMtYW5kLXZhcmlhbnRzP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. - **[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")** - [![Jerome's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar80.png)](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/80-jerome) - HikaShop core developer Less More - Posts: 26394 - Thank you received: 4078 - - [](http://obsi.dev) - 13 years 1 month ago [\#123824](#123824) by [Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile") Replied by *[Jerome](/forum/user/80-jerome "View Jerome's Profile")* on topic *[An importing problem - product codes and variants](/forum/4-how-to/19885-an-importing-problem-product-codes-and-variants?start=20#123824 "I really could use some help/advice about this problem. Here is a snippet showing some product codes from the very small company I'm working with ASU-W60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,White ASU-W60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,White ASU-W60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,White ASU-W60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,White ASU-B60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,Blue ASU-B60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,Blue ASU-B60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,Blue ASU-B60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,Blue The variants are coded in the existing product code - size (last char) and colour (5th char) When I import the products, new product codes are created for the variants which are different from the product codes currently in use. My reason for including the variants in the product file is that I wanted to include images for each of the variants like this. How do I get around this problem? The company is looking for an on-line catalog and, maybe eventually, on-line sales. Jim PS A further question. I don't understand product_parent_codes. They seem to imply that an item with a product_parent_code is an item that cannot be purchased with the product_parent code, just used internally in the program? For example, on your demo site, there are two product codes pink_shoes and pink_shoes_5_22, for the same item. I feel I must be missing something here.")* Hi, For what I see the product is right link to a category, with the id 12 But this category does not have a parent category, so there is no "breadcrumb" displayed. Regards, --- Jerome - Obsidev.com HikaMarket & HikaSerial developer / HikaShop core dev team. 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Here is a snippet showing some product codes from the very small company I'm working with ASU-W60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,White ASU-W60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,White ASU-W60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,White ASU-W60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,White ASU-B60601,salad bowl ,14 cm,,$8.95,Blue ASU-B60602,salad bowl ,17 cm,,$11.95,Blue ASU-B60603,salad bowl ,20 cm,,$13.95,Blue ASU-B60604,salad bowl ,25 cm,,$22.95,Blue The variants are coded in the existing product code - size (last char) and colour (5th char) When I import the products, new product codes are created for the variants which are different from the product codes currently in use. My reason for including the variants in the product file is that I wanted to include images for each of the variants like this. How do I get around this problem? The company is looking for an on-line catalog and, maybe eventually, on-line sales. Jim PS A further question. I don't understand product_parent_codes. They seem to imply that an item with a product_parent_code is an item that cannot be purchased with the product_parent code, just used internally in the program? For example, on your demo site, there are two product codes pink_shoes and pink_shoes_5_22, for the same item. I feel I must be missing something here.")* Hi Jerome, thank you very much for your answer. I am sure I am missing something during data upload to the tables. When I add category of product via back end everything works just fine. When I upload the products via sql query, I do not get them displayed on the front end untill I approach them via back end and click on save button on product page (yes, products are displayed only on back end after sql upload). The tables I use for upload are: hikashop_category hikashop_product hikashop_product_category hikashop_file (for image files) Do I miss any table which I should also alter for proper product display on front end? Thank you, Ondrej Hi Jerome, I found the reason of above behaviour. For proper products listing on front end it is vital to have also the columns "product_created" and "product_modified" load with data. Otherwise the product is only accessible (visible) on back end but not front - end. I believe the same reason applies for categories in breadcrumb. Thank you once again for your help, Ondrej Last edit: 13 years 1 month ago by [ondrejhajnik](/forum/user/12477-ondrejhajnik "View ondrejhajnik's Profile"). Reason: explanation The following user(s) said Thank You: [Xavier](/forum/user/4105-xavier "View Xavier's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzE5ODg1LWFuLWltcG9ydGluZy1wcm9ibGVtLXByb2R1Y3QtY29kZXMtYW5kLXZhcmlhbnRzP3N0YXJ0PTIwJnRtcGw9bWFya2Rvd24=) or [Create an account](/register) to join the conversation. 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