[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # option product with variants ## - **[magnum](/forum/user/6307-magnum "View magnum's Profile")** - [![magnum's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/6307-magnum "View magnum's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/6307-magnum) Less More - Posts: 3 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 8 months ago [\#41110](#41110) by [magnum](/forum/user/6307-magnum "View magnum's Profile") *[option product with variants](/forum/4-how-to/41110-option-product-with-variants#41110 "hi all, first let me say that i am very pleased with hikashop, really an awesome software. as a newbie to hikashop i am in the process of checking it out. now this is my problem: i define a product that will be used as an option. this option product has 2 characteristics with 2 values each ( also tried only one characteristic, same problem). (by the way, i have noticed that hikashop sets up the matrix of variants only correctly if i add both characteristics at once. if i add one characteristic, save the product and add the second later on, i only see two variants in the "managed variants" list and have to set up the others manually. this is uncomfortable, but not a real problem.) however, if i add that product to another as an option, the system provides the 4 variants of the option, but does not offer the choice not to have the option at all as it does with options products w/o variants. since it does in the demo with the desktop tower (keyboard and mouse) i am obviously doing something wrong. but what? B)")* was created by *[magnum](/forum/user/6307-magnum "View magnum's Profile")* hi all, first let me say that i am very pleased with hikashop, really an awesome software. as a newbie to hikashop i am in the process of checking it out. now this is my problem: i define a product that will be used as an option. this option product has 2 characteristics with 2 values each ( also tried only one characteristic, same problem). (by the way, i have noticed that hikashop sets up the matrix of variants only correctly if i add both characteristics at once. if i add one characteristic, save the product and add the second later on, i only see two variants in the "managed variants" list and have to set up the others manually. this is uncomfortable, but not a real problem.) however, if i add that product to another as an option, the system provides the 4 variants of the option, but does not offer the choice not to have the option at all as it does with options products w/o variants. since it does in the demo with the desktop tower (keyboard and mouse) i am obviously doing something wrong. but what? ![B)](/media/kunena/emoticons/1.png "B)") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzQxMTEwLW9wdGlvbi1wcm9kdWN0LXdpdGgtdmFyaWFudHM/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86292 - Thank you received: 14270 - - 14 years 8 months ago [\#41224](#41224) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: option product with variants](/forum/4-how-to/41110-option-product-with-variants#41224 "hi all, first let me say that i am very pleased with hikashop, really an awesome software. as a newbie to hikashop i am in the process of checking it out. now this is my problem: i define a product that will be used as an option. this option product has 2 characteristics with 2 values each ( also tried only one characteristic, same problem). (by the way, i have noticed that hikashop sets up the matrix of variants only correctly if i add both characteristics at once. if i add one characteristic, save the product and add the second later on, i only see two variants in the "managed variants" list and have to set up the others manually. this is uncomfortable, but not a real problem.) however, if i add that product to another as an option, the system provides the 4 variants of the option, but does not offer the choice not to have the option at all as it does with options products w/o variants. since it does in the demo with the desktop tower (keyboard and mouse) i am obviously doing something wrong. but what? B)")* Hi, You're not doing anything wrong. On our demo website, all the product options of the desktop tower product have a characteristic with variants. So we have a specific variant for the "no" choice. So that's the way you should do it too. Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzQxMTEwLW9wdGlvbi1wcm9kdWN0LXdpdGgtdmFyaWFudHM/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[magnum](/forum/user/6307-magnum "View magnum's Profile")** - [![magnum's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/6307-magnum "View magnum's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/6307-magnum) Less More - Posts: 3 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 8 months ago [\#41276](#41276) by [magnum](/forum/user/6307-magnum "View magnum's Profile") Replied by *[magnum](/forum/user/6307-magnum "View magnum's Profile")* on topic *[Re: option product with variants](/forum/4-how-to/41110-option-product-with-variants#41276 "hi all, first let me say that i am very pleased with hikashop, really an awesome software. as a newbie to hikashop i am in the process of checking it out. now this is my problem: i define a product that will be used as an option. this option product has 2 characteristics with 2 values each ( also tried only one characteristic, same problem). (by the way, i have noticed that hikashop sets up the matrix of variants only correctly if i add both characteristics at once. if i add one characteristic, save the product and add the second later on, i only see two variants in the "managed variants" list and have to set up the others manually. this is uncomfortable, but not a real problem.) however, if i add that product to another as an option, the system provides the 4 variants of the option, but does not offer the choice not to have the option at all as it does with options products w/o variants. since it does in the demo with the desktop tower (keyboard and mouse) i am obviously doing something wrong. but what? B)")* thx for your answer, but that way seems quite cumbersome to me. (for example: i have a topcase that comes in 2 sizes and several colors. i want to sell that topbox separately and as an option (with the variants) to several bikes. so i would have to define the characteristics and a second set for the topbox as a product, because for that case the variant 'without' doesn't make any sense. and most of all i would have redundant data.) but i found a simple workaround by patching the view product/option.php ![B)](/media/kunena/emoticons/1.png "B)") after line 50 ( }else{ ) i inserted a copy of line 28 : Code: $this->values[] = JHTML::_('select.option', 0,JText::_('HIKASHOP_NO')); and (quick and dirty) to make the system offer 'without' as the default (line 99ff) : Code: if($default){ // $value = $variant->product_id; $value=0; } now (at least on the product detail page and in the cart) it does exactly what i want. however: do i have to expect any problems, e.g. with billing? Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzQxMTEwLW9wdGlvbi1wcm9kdWN0LXdpdGgtdmFyaWFudHM/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86292 - Thank you received: 14270 - - 14 years 7 months ago [\#41442](#41442) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: option product with variants](/forum/4-how-to/41110-option-product-with-variants#41442 "hi all, first let me say that i am very pleased with hikashop, really an awesome software. as a newbie to hikashop i am in the process of checking it out. now this is my problem: i define a product that will be used as an option. this option product has 2 characteristics with 2 values each ( also tried only one characteristic, same problem). (by the way, i have noticed that hikashop sets up the matrix of variants only correctly if i add both characteristics at once. if i add one characteristic, save the product and add the second later on, i only see two variants in the "managed variants" list and have to set up the others manually. this is uncomfortable, but not a real problem.) however, if i add that product to another as an option, the system provides the 4 variants of the option, but does not offer the choice not to have the option at all as it does with options products w/o variants. since it does in the demo with the desktop tower (keyboard and mouse) i am obviously doing something wrong. but what? B)")* Ah yes, you can do that with that kind of change in the view file. No problem to expect. 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