[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # Can I set a default payment method ## - **[rvdpteg](/forum/user/7653-rvdpteg "View rvdpteg's Profile")** - [![rvdpteg's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/7653-rvdpteg "View rvdpteg's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/7653-rvdpteg) Less More - Posts: 5 - Thank you received: 0 - - 14 years 3 months ago [\#56515](#56515) by [rvdpteg](/forum/user/7653-rvdpteg "View rvdpteg's Profile") *[Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#56515 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* was created by *[rvdpteg](/forum/user/7653-rvdpteg "View rvdpteg's Profile")* I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png?1793428657)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86316 - Thank you received: 14276 - - 14 years 3 months ago [\#56560](#56560) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#56560 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* Go in the joomla plugins manager and change their ordering. 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Rob")* This changes the order, but not the default selected option. Is there a quick fix for this? 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Rob")* That will change the default selection too. Just logout/login in order to clear your user session and see the new default selection. Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[arnask](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile")** - [![arnask's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/6752-arnask) Less More - Posts: 198 - Thank you received: 4 - - 14 years 2 months ago [\#61555](#61555) by [arnask](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile") Replied by *[arnask](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#61555 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* is there a way to select default shipping and payment method for every user? Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png?1793428657)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86316 - Thank you received: 14276 - - 14 years 2 months ago [\#61622](#61622) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#61622 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* What do you mean ? Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[arnask](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile")** - [![arnask's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/6752-arnask) Less More - Posts: 198 - Thank you received: 4 - - 14 years 2 months ago - 14 years 2 months ago [\#61641](#61641) by [arnask](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile") Replied by *[arnask](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#61641 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* for example: i manually made users for my constant buyers. They are buying often and more, so can i make default shipping and payment method for them. Because now they always need to select theirs shipping and payment methods. Now i have 4 shipping and 3 payment methods and every time they need to select them. Other methods is for new users that can register and buy. It will be more easy if i can select these methods for every user in users edit window (index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=user&task=edit&cid[]=281) I will be happy with some manual changes in files only for these customers ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/8.png ":)") but need to know exactly what to change, because i'm not programmer. Last edit: 14 years 2 months ago by [arnask](/forum/user/6752-arnask "View arnask's Profile"). 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Rob")* There are no options for that. You would have to create a custom field of the table "user" via the menu Display->Custom fields. Set it as a dropdown and have one value per payment method. In the value field, enter the id of the payment method and in the title, enter its name. Then, in your users you will be able to select the payment method to become their default. Finally, in the "payment" file of the view "checkout" via the menu display>Views, you would have to add at the beginning the: <?php if(empty($this->payment_id)){ $user = hikashop_loadUser(true); $this->payment_id=$user->CUSTOM_FIELD_COLUMN_NAME;} ?> where CUSTOM_FIELD_COLUMN_NAME needs to be replaced by the actual custom field column name. 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Rob")* is this something that i can expect in next hikashop release by default? 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Rob")* 99% of the users don't need it. That's clearly an edge case which that small modification can easily fulfill. I don't see any reason to include it HikaShop. 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Rob")* I've followed the instructions in this thread and set the order of my two payment methods via Joomla plug-ins ordering, and that does indeed change the order that they appear on the payment page, but not the default method of payment (even when I log out / refresh etc). How can I force a default payment method? Do I need to edit checkout / payment.php ? Thanks Steve Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png?1793428657)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86316 - Thank you received: 14276 - - 13 years 8 months ago [\#90121](#90121) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#90121 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* The default method of payment will be the first one based on the ordering. There is nothing to do for that. However, if the user session data is not flushed, you will still get selected the one you had selected before. So I still think that your problem is just temporary. Try with another user account. The following user(s) said Thank You: [SteveEvans](/forum/user/9481-steveevans "View SteveEvans's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[SteveEvans](/forum/user/9481-steveevans "View SteveEvans's Profile")** - [![SteveEvans's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/9481-steveevans "View SteveEvans's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/9481-steveevans) Less More - Posts: 31 - Thank you received: 3 - - 13 years 8 months ago [\#90162](#90162) by [SteveEvans](/forum/user/9481-steveevans "View SteveEvans's Profile") Replied by *[SteveEvans](/forum/user/9481-steveevans "View SteveEvans's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#90162 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* Yes - thanks Nicolas. I had done several 'shift-refreshes' but you are right, it now shows the first one as the default. Many thanks Steve Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[reza21681](/forum/user/32404-reza21681 "View reza21681's Profile")** - [![reza21681's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar32404.jpg)](/forum/user/32404-reza21681 "View reza21681's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/32404-reza21681) Less More - Posts: 10 - Thank you received: 1 - - 12 years 6 months ago [\#154017](#154017) by [reza21681](/forum/user/32404-reza21681 "View reza21681's Profile") Replied by *[reza21681](/forum/user/32404-reza21681 "View reza21681's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#154017 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* Hello I have one payment method and I created one "Customer orders menu". when user click on the menu, the "Orders" page will be open. he could see the order list and as I configured "Payment of orders not paid immediately" to "yes" in the configuration, then he could pay his order from this page now. but my first option in the "peyment dropdown menu" here is "None" and user should change it to "Paypal". is it any way to remove "None" state? Please note I want to set "Allow customers to change their payment method after checkout" to "No" from "system/configuration/order". but if I set it to "No" user could not pay his order. because the payment drop down will not appear and first default pay method is setting to "None". then in this page user will see "Pay with" button. as I understood, user should see "Pay with PayPal" button. but as I told, the first default payment is "None" and he will see "Pay with" button. if he press that button, he will see "The payment method could not be found" Error Message. Can you please tell me how I can solve it? Thanks a lot for reading ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/8.png ":)") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png?1793428657)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86316 - Thank you received: 14276 - - 12 years 6 months ago [\#154032](#154032) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#154032 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* Hi, It should not be necessary to enable that dropdown. When the user creates his order through the checkout, the payment method is assigned to the order automatically. So when he goes to his orders listing, he should already see the "pay with paypal" button. If you don't see it, it means that either you removed the auto selection of the payment method on the checkout or that you created the order from the backend without adding the payment method to it, or that you edited the order created by the user and removed the payment method from it. 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Help is much appreciated. Rob")* Hi, Thanks for your quick reply. Yes you right, I set the "Auto select default shipping and payment methods" to "Yes" and now "Pay with PayPal" will be appear but there is another problem. see, I want my customer, upload his file with his order without any payment in this progress until now. We will modify the file and we will notify him by email. then, He should come and pay the order to download the file. I removed the "Payment" from the "System/Configuration/Checkout/Checkout workflow" but still, if I set the "Auto select default shipping and payment methods" to "Yes", after user click the "Finish" button at the last submitting order step, it will force automatically to connect to the PayPal Website. and as I told in my last post, if I set "Auto select default shipping and payment methods" to "No", the "Play with" button will appear again because default payment is "None" I think! Can you guide me more in this way? Thanks a lot Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")** - [![nicolas's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar63.png?1793428657)](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/63-nicolas) Less More - Posts: 86316 - Thank you received: 14276 - - 12 years 6 months ago [\#154103](#154103) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Re: Can I set a default payment method](/forum/4-how-to/56515-can-i-set-a-default-payment-method#154103 "I have 2 payment methods and would like to set the second one as default, but can't figure out how. Help is much appreciated. Rob")* Hi, Then, you should keep that option to "no" and when you notify the user by email via the order details page of the backend, before sending the email, you should just set the payment method of the order to PayPal. That way, the user would also see "Pay with PayPal". Otherwise, you can leave the dropdown and try to remove the line: Code: $this->values[] = JHTML::_('select.option', $type.'_'.$id, $name ); from administrator/components/com_hikashop/types/plugins.php so that the "none" value is not added to the dropdown, but that might not work. The following user(s) said Thank You: [reza21681](/forum/user/32404-reza21681 "View reza21681's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzQtaG93LXRvLzU2NTE1LWNhbi1pLXNldC1hLWRlZmF1bHQtcGF5bWVudC1tZXRob2Q/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. 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