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13 years 8 months ago [\#90645](#90645) by [HelenSA](/forum/user/13754-helensa "View HelenSA's Profile")  *[Product Characteristics Menu missing](/forum/4-how-to/78488-product-characteristics-menu-missing#90645 "Hi I have been trying to set up variations of products and according to the documentation should do this by first creating characteristics from the Product &gt; Characteristics menu. But I don't see this menu anywhere. Is it supposed to be a third level drop down off the components &gt; hikashop &gt; products menu? Or is it supposed to be accessible from the dashboard? In either case, I cannot see it. Thanks Helen")* was created by *[HelenSA](/forum/user/13754-helensa "View HelenSA's Profile")*

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I have been trying to set up variations of products and according to the documentation should do this by first creating characteristics from the Product &gt; Characteristics menu. But I don't see this menu anywhere. Is it supposed to be a third level drop down off the components &gt; hikashop &gt; products menu? Or is it supposed to be accessible from the dashboard? In either case, I cannot see it.
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Helen

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13 years 8 months ago [\#90673](#90673) by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")  Replied by *[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")* on topic *[Product Characteristics Menu missing](/forum/4-how-to/78488-product-characteristics-menu-missing#90673 "Hi I have been trying to set up variations of products and according to the documentation should do this by first creating characteristics from the Product &gt; Characteristics menu. But I don't see this menu anywhere. Is it supposed to be a third level drop down off the components &gt; hikashop &gt; products menu? Or is it supposed to be accessible from the dashboard? In either case, I cannot see it. Thanks Helen")*

Hi Helen,

You'll be able to create your new characteristic through "*Hikashop-&gt;Products-&gt;Characteristics-&gt;'NEW'*".

Hope this will help you ![:)](/media/kunena/emoticons/3.png ":)").

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13 years 8 months ago [\#91437](#91437) by [HelenSA](/forum/user/13754-helensa "View HelenSA's Profile")  Replied by *[HelenSA](/forum/user/13754-helensa "View HelenSA's Profile")* on topic *[Product Characteristics Menu missing](/forum/4-how-to/78488-product-characteristics-menu-missing#91437 "Hi I have been trying to set up variations of products and according to the documentation should do this by first creating characteristics from the Product &gt; Characteristics menu. But I don't see this menu anywhere. Is it supposed to be a third level drop down off the components &gt; hikashop &gt; products menu? Or is it supposed to be accessible from the dashboard? In either case, I cannot see it. Thanks Helen")*

Unfortunately that is exactly my problem - I cannot see any sub-menu to Hikashop &gt; Products. Any ideas why this might be missing?

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13 years 8 months ago [\#91606](#91606) by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")  Replied by *[nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile")* on topic *[Product Characteristics Menu missing](/forum/4-how-to/78488-product-characteristics-menu-missing#91606 "Hi I have been trying to set up variations of products and according to the documentation should do this by first creating characteristics from the Product &gt; Characteristics menu. But I don't see this menu anywhere. Is it supposed to be a third level drop down off the components &gt; hikashop &gt; products menu? Or is it supposed to be accessible from the dashboard? In either case, I cannot see it. Thanks Helen")*

The Characteristics sub menu is not on the joomla menu. It's below the title of the page:
[ www.hikashop.com/media/doc/tuto\_product\_payment\_menu.png](http://www.hikashop.com/media/doc/tuto_product_payment_menu.png)
If you don't see it, please change the "menu position" of the configuration and that should help. It's probably a conflict with your template.

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13 years 7 months ago [\#93566](#93566) by [HelenSA](/forum/user/13754-helensa "View HelenSA's Profile")  Replied by *[HelenSA](/forum/user/13754-helensa "View HelenSA's Profile")* on topic *[Product Characteristics Menu missing](/forum/4-how-to/78488-product-characteristics-menu-missing#93566 "Hi I have been trying to set up variations of products and according to the documentation should do this by first creating characteristics from the Product &gt; Characteristics menu. But I don't see this menu anywhere. Is it supposed to be a third level drop down off the components &gt; hikashop &gt; products menu? Or is it supposed to be accessible from the dashboard? In either case, I cannot see it. Thanks Helen")*

That is definitely the problem! Using the default admin template isis - Default, when I change the menu position to "under the title" I can now see the menu items but they are not clickable. The alternative admin template that I have available ( Hathor - Default) allows me to see the menu items but in a very un-userfriendly way.
What is the name of the admin template that you are using?
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13 years 7 months ago [\#93627](#93627) by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")  Replied by *[Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile")* on topic *[Product Characteristics Menu missing](/forum/4-how-to/78488-product-characteristics-menu-missing#93627 "Hi I have been trying to set up variations of products and according to the documentation should do this by first creating characteristics from the Product &gt; Characteristics menu. But I don't see this menu anywhere. Is it supposed to be a third level drop down off the components &gt; hikashop &gt; products menu? Or is it supposed to be accessible from the dashboard? In either case, I cannot see it. Thanks Helen")*

Like in the demo website I'm using the **Bluestork** administrator template.

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