[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # my first hikashop site ## - **[Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile")** - [![Joeri's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/31420-joeri) Less More - Posts: 26 - Thank you received: 0 - - 12 years 1 month ago - 12 years 1 month ago [\#172320](#172320) by [Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#172320 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* was created by *[Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile")* -- url of the page with the problem -- : [ www.foliewinkel.com](http://www.foliewinkel.com) -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome. Last edit: 12 years 1 month ago by [Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")** - [![lionel75's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/11856-lionel75) Less More - Posts: 846 - Thank you received: 92 - - 12 years 1 month ago - 12 years 1 month ago [\#173361](#173361) by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") Replied by *[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")* on topic *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#173361 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* hi 1 each article don't have the same number of image or lines text ...so nothing can be vertical align with the css you use . 2 You use a sprite for "Plaats in de winkelwagen" that overlap the width of the container in some case ( MQ) . 3 color fore/back ground The top right corner should be to a lighter color . when thetop image is use , the background is white , the top right corner could not be white !! I like the way you cut the original image in the home page refer to each Mediaqueries ranges . The issues ( 1 2 ) appear during many mediaqueries range in some case . Gantry is more than a template it is an IDE integration in the backend with many tool for deigner and developper . Gantry has many predefine mediaqueries , but mediaqueries breakpoints must be choose refer to broken design when width browser decrease not refer to predefine device screen . See the capture screen about mediaqueries range , and do you know a- for each range what occur in each range whithout have a look to each range definition ? or b- do you know in wich range you make some modification ? When i begin joomla i was thinking that i could begin to learn gantry first but discover i need to undertand the basic go low level ( css html js ) before go to high level like gantry. If you use high level tool ; you have to know the low level tools/techniques that is use by the high level tool . I really think joomla should be agnostic about CSS framework and joomla framework ( larabee) !! when you understand css js html you can take the code from one website and make your's ( inspire not thief ). Hope this ll helpfull . Last edit: 12 years 1 month ago by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile"). The following user(s) said Thank You: [Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile")** - [![Joeri's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/31420-joeri) Less More - Posts: 26 - Thank you received: 0 - - 12 years 1 month ago - 12 years 1 month ago [\#173365](#173365) by [Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") Replied by *[Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile")* on topic *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#173365 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* Thanks for your input, i understand 50% off wat you say. iam a amateur and trying this for a hobby. the css comes from a hikashop layout????. The white corner do you mean the background color?? :blush: :blush: **and do you know a- for each range what occur in each range whithout have a look to each range definition ? or b- do you know in wich range you make some modification ?** This i mean, i don't know this, how?? Last edit: 12 years 1 month ago by [Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")** - [![lionel75's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/11856-lionel75) Less More - Posts: 846 - Thank you received: 92 - - 12 years 1 month ago - 12 years 1 month ago [\#173366](#173366) by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") Replied by *[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")* on topic *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#173366 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* Ok sorry i don't know your level . See the capture screen i upload with some comment . Open the file in paint .net instead of browser ... some browser don't support transparency ( grey white carret background ) a mediaquery is information write in the css that ask to the browser to change css properties ( color shape location) that apply by default to a div in different way for width range of browser . In the capture screen there is 9 green range even some range are identical ( in the capture screen ) not the css code ( i nthe rendering viewer = browser ) . in this capture screen the link goes to a php file that contain css code . so it is not a php file but a css file . [ ](http://www.foliewinkel.com/plugins/system/jch_optimize/assets2/jscss.php?f=29c0ea5284fd3f9ead238fd52973ac02&type=css&gz=gz&d=30)[ www.foliewinkel.com/plugins/system/jch\_o...&type=css&gz=gz&d=30](http://www.foliewinkel.com/plugins/system/jch_optimize/assets2/jscss.php?f=29c0ea5284fd3f9ead238fd52973ac02&type=css&gz=gz&d=30) the problem is that this URL can be dynamic so can be invalid and depend of browser session ( cookies ) . the second problem is that in the url you can see jch optimize . so gantry use a joomla extension for speed ( load asset in short time) . So you have to understand jsh optimize or know why use it [ extensions.joomla.org/extensions/core-en...te-performance/12088](http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/core-enhancements/performance/site-performance/12088) regard's Last edit: 12 years 1 month ago by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile"). 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Maybe you know also how to remove te gantry logo on the bottom off the site?? Thank you again very much for your time Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")** - [![lionel75's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/11856-lionel75) Less More - Posts: 846 - Thank you received: 92 - - 12 years 1 month ago - 12 years 1 month ago [\#173369](#173369) by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") Replied by *[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")* on topic *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#173369 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* When you write you use the words "hikashop layout" ... it is not exact . You use gantry layout ( main template ) and inside this layout you use hikashop layout ( joomla extension layout that have it own layout ) . All layout ( main template like beez5 ) you choose by default ll never be compatible with layout of any extension ( hikashop is an joomla extension) . It is why we speak in the internet a lot of bootstrap but you have to use a bootstrap layout ( main template ) and use an extension that is bootstrap compatible . I speak a lot in Hikashop forum about bootstrap and version problem incompatibilities . If the gantry template you use is boostrap compatible then hikashop is not bootstrap compatible ( see my capture ) or you don't choose /configure/enable Hikashop in the way it should to support bootstrap . compatible support don't mean implement bootstrap and need to be explicit comment to understand thing behind marketing /commercial word . in all case use a CSS framework need to write HTML code like use javascript library need to write javascript code . bootstrap don't do all because you have to custom bootstrap with color , size and image . [ ](http://bootswatchr.com/create#!/edit/f8fc110f)[ bootswatchr.com/create#!/edit/f8fc110f](http://bootswatchr.com/create#!/edit/f8fc110f) regard's Last edit: 12 years 1 month ago by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile")** - [![Joeri's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/31420-joeri) Less More - Posts: 26 - Thank you received: 0 - - 12 years 1 month ago [\#173370](#173370) by [Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") Replied by *[Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile")* on topic *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#173370 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* the second problem is that in the url you can see jch optimize . so gantry use a joomla extension for speed ( load asset in short time) . So you have to understand jsh optimize or know why use it Thats right, I have put in jch because with the gantry template my site become slow Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")** - [![lionel75's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/11856-lionel75) Less More - Posts: 846 - Thank you received: 92 - - 12 years 1 month ago - 12 years 1 month ago [\#173371](#173371) by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") Replied by *[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")* on topic *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#173371 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* Hi i was thinking gantry add this but see it is a pay extension . I don't know all but hope what i write ll be helpfull and make sense . It is a good point to use JCH so your are not a really a beginner ... ( great ) I coudl study your site and give the % of css not use . It is because gantry is too big that with years it ll be too slow ( not really true , it depends how you use/configure gantry ) . Disable the extensions that are install but not use is another tricks but there is so many ..... regard's Last edit: 12 years 1 month ago by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile")** - [![Joeri's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](/forum/user/31420-joeri) Less More - Posts: 26 - Thank you received: 0 - - 12 years 1 month ago [\#173372](#173372) by [Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile") Replied by *[Joeri](/forum/user/31420-joeri "View Joeri's Profile")* on topic *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#173372 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* Iam very thankfull, that you help me so far. I learn a lot this evening. I can do a coppel off things now so i working on that. bootwatcher is very interesting but i don;t know how to use it , not yet. thanks again, i hope to speak you again a another day. best regards joeri Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. - **[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")** - [![lionel75's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") - [ Offline](/forum/user/11856-lionel75) Less More - Posts: 846 - Thank you received: 92 - - 12 years 1 month ago - 12 years 1 month ago [\#173374](#173374) by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile") Replied by *[lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile")* on topic *[my first hikashop site](/forum/8-showcase/871732-my-first-hikashop-site#173374 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.foliewinkel.com -- HikaShop version -- : HikaShop [1402281947] -- Joomla version -- : 2.5 -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are welcome. :woohoo: site is up now for 6 months, making this site for myself, there are some points i working to get it better. suggestions are always welcome.")* bootwatcher is only a little part of iceberg. there is many others tools that have been build has a webservice . In all case it is a css editor without image support . You can change color size for text div but not image ( still use custom css code and drawing editor like photoshop or paint net gimp) . there is many other bootstrap design editor ( layer on css ) see [ ](http://tutsme-webdesign.info/best-bootstrap-visual-editor/)[ tutsme-webdesign.info/best-bootstrap-visual-editor/](http://tutsme-webdesign.info/best-bootstrap-visual-editor/). At this time joomla claim to use bootstrap but no way to search in [ jed](http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/advanced-search) wich extension support bootstrap and other big problem which bootstrap version is supported !! designer tool online also exist for some javascript library like jquery UI base on jquery see [ ](http://jqueryui.com/themeroller/)[ jqueryui.com/themeroller/](http://jqueryui.com/themeroller/) bootstrap is vaporware( don't waste your time on it unless all joomla core and extension implement it ) , custom by yourself the default template you buy ( change color add image ) and post in forum for css / php issue you have during dev . color can be change by using some free or pay template but the number of change is very limited by the people who implement the template . the ja_purity do that but implementation use joomla functionnalities and css raster php knowledge ! By change a simple selector you can change the color of the template . Better than enable /disable parameter of specific template , bootstrap let people change by far many more parameters than a joomla template . joomla is for manage data in page ( storage) and manage link beetween pages not to custom style ( css ) even we can . regard's Last edit: 12 years 1 month ago by [lionel75](/forum/user/11856-lionel75 "View lionel75's Profile"). Please [Log in](/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaGlrYXNob3AuY29tL2ZvcnVtLzgtc2hvd2Nhc2UvODcxNzMyLW15LWZpcnN0LWhpa2FzaG9wLXNpdGU/dG1wbD1tYXJrZG93bg==) or [Create an account](/component/users/registration?Itemid=101) to join the conversation. 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