[Skip to main content](#vessel-content) # Profile for killnine ## [![killnine's Avatar](https://www.hikashop.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") **[ Offline](/forum/user/38536-killnine)** - **User Type:** User - **Register Date:** 28 Aug 2015 - **Last login:** 9 years 3 months ago - **Time Zone:** UTC +0:00 - **Local Time:** 19:34 - **Posts:** 32 - **Profile views:** 137 - **Thank you received:** 1 - **Gender:** Unknown - **Birthdate:** Unknown - Posts # killnine's recent posts (32 messages ) All Since last visit 4 Hours 8 Hours 12 Hours 24 Hours 48 Hours Week Month Year All Since last visit 4 Hours 8 Hours 12 Hours 24 Hours 48 Hours Week Month Year | [ ](#forumbottom) | Subject | Replies / Views | Last Post | [ ](#forumtop) | |---|---|---|---|---| | [](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274233) | ['Minimum Order is $15.00' error, even when above threshold](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274233 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.4 -- Joomla version -- : 3.7.2 I have an interesting issue where, when a user adds a number of items to their cart, they're prompted for a message at checkout saying there is not enough product in their cart to meet minimum order price ($15.00). However, the cart price is well above this value, and we aren't configured to have a minimum order price anyway. Here's the step to reproduce: * Visit product URL: * Add 15 to cart * Checkout * Login and try to go to shipping method * Should get error at top Here's what I've tried so far: * Ensured all product has a valid weight * Ensured product has a valid height, width, depth and unit of measure * Checked for minimum order quantities on product * Looked in code where $errors is set and can't seem to see where it'd cause a problem (I dont think any payment_params have anything but zero in them) I'm very stumped. Not all products exhibit this behavior, but this is a very popular product. Any help would be appreciated.") Category: [Install & Update](/forum/25-install-update "Having an installation or update issue? You will probably find some help here.") Topic started 9 years 3 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") 9 years 3 months ago by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") | Replies:10 Views:770 | [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") 9 years 3 months ago | | [](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274232) | ['Minimum Order is $15.00' error, even when above threshold](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274232 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.4 -- Joomla version -- : 3.7.2 I have an interesting issue where, when a user adds a number of items to their cart, they're prompted for a message at checkout saying there is not enough product in their cart to meet minimum order price ($15.00). However, the cart price is well above this value, and we aren't configured to have a minimum order price anyway. Here's the step to reproduce: * Visit product URL: * Add 15 to cart * Checkout * Login and try to go to shipping method * Should get error at top Here's what I've tried so far: * Ensured all product has a valid weight * Ensured product has a valid height, width, depth and unit of measure * Checked for minimum order quantities on product * Looked in code where $errors is set and can't seem to see where it'd cause a problem (I dont think any payment_params have anything but zero in them) I'm very stumped. Not all products exhibit this behavior, but this is a very popular product. Any help would be appreciated.") Category: [Install & Update](/forum/25-install-update "Having an installation or update issue? You will probably find some help here.") Topic started 9 years 3 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") 9 years 3 months ago by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") | Replies:10 Views:770 | [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") 9 years 3 months ago | | [](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#273989) | ['Minimum Order is $15.00' error, even when above threshold](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#273989 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.4 -- Joomla version -- : 3.7.2 I have an interesting issue where, when a user adds a number of items to their cart, they're prompted for a message at checkout saying there is not enough product in their cart to meet minimum order price ($15.00). However, the cart price is well above this value, and we aren't configured to have a minimum order price anyway. Here's the step to reproduce: * Visit product URL: * Add 15 to cart * Checkout * Login and try to go to shipping method * Should get error at top Here's what I've tried so far: * Ensured all product has a valid weight * Ensured product has a valid height, width, depth and unit of measure * Checked for minimum order quantities on product * Looked in code where $errors is set and can't seem to see where it'd cause a problem (I dont think any payment_params have anything but zero in them) I'm very stumped. Not all products exhibit this behavior, but this is a very popular product. Any help would be appreciated.") Category: [Install & Update](/forum/25-install-update "Having an installation or update issue? You will probably find some help here.") Topic started 9 years 3 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") 9 years 3 months ago by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") | Replies:10 Views:770 | [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") 9 years 3 months ago | | [](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#273921) | ['Minimum Order is $15.00' error, even when above threshold](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#273921 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.4 -- Joomla version -- : 3.7.2 I have an interesting issue where, when a user adds a number of items to their cart, they're prompted for a message at checkout saying there is not enough product in their cart to meet minimum order price ($15.00). However, the cart price is well above this value, and we aren't configured to have a minimum order price anyway. Here's the step to reproduce: * Visit product URL: * Add 15 to cart * Checkout * Login and try to go to shipping method * Should get error at top Here's what I've tried so far: * Ensured all product has a valid weight * Ensured product has a valid height, width, depth and unit of measure * Checked for minimum order quantities on product * Looked in code where $errors is set and can't seem to see where it'd cause a problem (I dont think any payment_params have anything but zero in them) I'm very stumped. Not all products exhibit this behavior, but this is a very popular product. Any help would be appreciated.") Category: [Install & Update](/forum/25-install-update "Having an installation or update issue? You will probably find some help here.") Topic started 9 years 3 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") 9 years 3 months ago by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") | Replies:10 Views:770 | [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") 9 years 3 months ago | | [](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#273852) | ['Minimum Order is $15.00' error, even when above threshold](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#273852 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.4 -- Joomla version -- : 3.7.2 I have an interesting issue where, when a user adds a number of items to their cart, they're prompted for a message at checkout saying there is not enough product in their cart to meet minimum order price ($15.00). However, the cart price is well above this value, and we aren't configured to have a minimum order price anyway. Here's the step to reproduce: * Visit product URL: * Add 15 to cart * Checkout * Login and try to go to shipping method * Should get error at top Here's what I've tried so far: * Ensured all product has a valid weight * Ensured product has a valid height, width, depth and unit of measure * Checked for minimum order quantities on product * Looked in code where $errors is set and can't seem to see where it'd cause a problem (I dont think any payment_params have anything but zero in them) I'm very stumped. Not all products exhibit this behavior, but this is a very popular product. Any help would be appreciated.") Category: [Install & Update](/forum/25-install-update "Having an installation or update issue? You will probably find some help here.") Topic started 9 years 3 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") 9 years 3 months ago by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") | Replies:10 Views:770 | [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") 9 years 3 months ago | | [](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#273659) | ['Minimum Order is $15.00' error, even when above threshold](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#273659 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.4 -- Joomla version -- : 3.7.2 I have an interesting issue where, when a user adds a number of items to their cart, they're prompted for a message at checkout saying there is not enough product in their cart to meet minimum order price ($15.00). However, the cart price is well above this value, and we aren't configured to have a minimum order price anyway. Here's the step to reproduce: * Visit product URL: * Add 15 to cart * Checkout * Login and try to go to shipping method * Should get error at top Here's what I've tried so far: * Ensured all product has a valid weight * Ensured product has a valid height, width, depth and unit of measure * Checked for minimum order quantities on product * Looked in code where $errors is set and can't seem to see where it'd cause a problem (I dont think any payment_params have anything but zero in them) I'm very stumped. Not all products exhibit this behavior, but this is a very popular product. Any help would be appreciated.") Category: [Install & Update](/forum/25-install-update "Having an installation or update issue? You will probably find some help here.") Topic started 9 years 3 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") 9 years 3 months ago by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") | Replies:10 Views:770 | [Last Post](/forum/25-install-update/891076-minimum-order-is-15-00-error-even-when-above-threshold#274256 "Hello, If that resolved your issue, your problem is probably coming from the fact that the weight/dimensions are not properly set through your variant, or are not properly took in account by shipping plugins, but I can't reproduce that issue with the last Hikashop version so it was properly after the 2.6.X. Also, If only using the weight/dimensions of the main product and not its variants fix your issue, then you should probably do it for every products.") by [Mohamed Thelji](/forum/user/6861-mohamed-thelji "View Mohamed Thelji's Profile") 9 years 3 months ago | | [](/forum/27-checkout/887796-customers-have-to-click-2-times-to-checkout#257924) | [customers have to click 2 times to checkout](/forum/27-checkout/887796-customers-have-to-click-2-times-to-checkout#257924 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.dfcgrootverbruik.nl -- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.4 -- Joomla version -- : 3.6.4 -- PHP version -- : 7.0.13 Hi, I've read about this multiple times in the forum but did not find there was a reason that applies to my situation (could be me...) In our shop there have been no changes in shipping or payment configuration. The options to auto select a default shipping and payment option are selected. This webshop is pretty static but I have updated Hikashop to the last version of 2.6.4 last week. Without jumping to conclusions it seems the issue "automagically" appeared.") Category: [Checkout](/forum/27-checkout "Everything about the checkout process in Hikashop") Topic started 9 years 10 months ago, by [nico.van.leeuwen](/forum/user/12404-nico-van-leeuwen "View nico.van.leeuwen's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/27-checkout/887796-customers-have-to-click-2-times-to-checkout#257988 "Hi, It's not possible that you have the header of the 2.6.3 in the file components/com_hikashop/controllers/checkout.php if the update wen't successfully. That file has to be updated to the 2.6.4. What you can do is rename the folders administrator/components/com_hikashop and components/com_hikashop and install the install package of the 2.6.4 again. It will circumvent the permission issue you probably have and you'll get the 2.6.4 version of the files. In any case, we didn't apply that modification to the 2.6.4. While it might be valid for the way you configured your checkout and your payment methods, for other merchants, that code is important. Also, HikaShop 3.0.0 (the next version of HikaShop) will have a brand new checkout system which will work completely differently and allow us to handle all the cases properly.") 9 years 10 months ago by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") | Replies:10 Views:1242 | [Last Post](/forum/27-checkout/887796-customers-have-to-click-2-times-to-checkout#257988 "Hi, It's not possible that you have the header of the 2.6.3 in the file components/com_hikashop/controllers/checkout.php if the update wen't successfully. That file has to be updated to the 2.6.4. What you can do is rename the folders administrator/components/com_hikashop and components/com_hikashop and install the install package of the 2.6.4 again. It will circumvent the permission issue you probably have and you'll get the 2.6.4 version of the files. In any case, we didn't apply that modification to the 2.6.4. While it might be valid for the way you configured your checkout and your payment methods, for other merchants, that code is important. Also, HikaShop 3.0.0 (the next version of HikaShop) will have a brand new checkout system which will work completely differently and allow us to handle all the cases properly.") by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") 9 years 10 months ago | | [](/forum/40-taxes/887675-us-taxes-not-calculated-as-expected#256863) | [US Taxes Not Calculated as Expected](/forum/40-taxes/887675-us-taxes-not-calculated-as-expected#256863 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.2 -- Joomla version -- : 3.6.4 I have a client whose site is calculating taxes for a specific region (6% tax in Florida, US). For the most part its working but it's always off by a small amount. Looking at this closer, I think it has to do with a rounding error or something. For instance, look at the screenshot below: Notice that each item is $0.29 + $0.02 Tax. That's a rounding on the $0.3074 cents per item that it should be. When you multiply that .0025 difference 800 times, it adds up! Expectation: (800 * 0.29) * 1.06 = $245.92 Actual: (800 * 0.31) = $248.00 Am I doing something wrong?") Category: [Taxes](/forum/40-taxes "Living in Canada and having troubles configuring your taxes? Come and get some help over there") Topic started 9 years 10 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/40-taxes/887675-us-taxes-not-calculated-as-expected#256879 "Hi, No, this has always been the case. Note that it's highly possible that the calculations don't need any rounding based on how you configure your tax rates and the prices of your products. In that case, regardless of that option, it would produce the same results. For example if the untaxed price of the product is 100 and the tax rate is 20%, regardless of that option it will always give a taxed price of 120. It's when you need rounding for the calculations that you can see the difference. So it's totally possible that your merchant didn't see that before because he was using prices and tax rates that didn't need rounding up until now.") 9 years 10 months ago by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") | Replies:3 Views:1649 | [Last Post](/forum/40-taxes/887675-us-taxes-not-calculated-as-expected#256879 "Hi, No, this has always been the case. Note that it's highly possible that the calculations don't need any rounding based on how you configure your tax rates and the prices of your products. In that case, regardless of that option, it would produce the same results. For example if the untaxed price of the product is 100 and the tax rate is 20%, regardless of that option it will always give a taxed price of 120. It's when you need rounding for the calculations that you can see the difference. So it's totally possible that your merchant didn't see that before because he was using prices and tax rates that didn't need rounding up until now.") by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") 9 years 10 months ago | | [](/forum/40-taxes/887675-us-taxes-not-calculated-as-expected#256252) | [US Taxes Not Calculated as Expected](/forum/40-taxes/887675-us-taxes-not-calculated-as-expected#256252 "-- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.2 -- Joomla version -- : 3.6.4 I have a client whose site is calculating taxes for a specific region (6% tax in Florida, US). For the most part its working but it's always off by a small amount. Looking at this closer, I think it has to do with a rounding error or something. For instance, look at the screenshot below: Notice that each item is $0.29 + $0.02 Tax. That's a rounding on the $0.3074 cents per item that it should be. When you multiply that .0025 difference 800 times, it adds up! Expectation: (800 * 0.29) * 1.06 = $245.92 Actual: (800 * 0.31) = $248.00 Am I doing something wrong?") Category: [Taxes](/forum/40-taxes "Living in Canada and having troubles configuring your taxes? Come and get some help over there") Topic started 9 years 10 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/40-taxes/887675-us-taxes-not-calculated-as-expected#256879 "Hi, No, this has always been the case. Note that it's highly possible that the calculations don't need any rounding based on how you configure your tax rates and the prices of your products. In that case, regardless of that option, it would produce the same results. For example if the untaxed price of the product is 100 and the tax rate is 20%, regardless of that option it will always give a taxed price of 120. It's when you need rounding for the calculations that you can see the difference. So it's totally possible that your merchant didn't see that before because he was using prices and tax rates that didn't need rounding up until now.") 9 years 10 months ago by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") | Replies:3 Views:1649 | [Last Post](/forum/40-taxes/887675-us-taxes-not-calculated-as-expected#256879 "Hi, No, this has always been the case. Note that it's highly possible that the calculations don't need any rounding based on how you configure your tax rates and the prices of your products. In that case, regardless of that option, it would produce the same results. For example if the untaxed price of the product is 100 and the tax rate is 20%, regardless of that option it will always give a taxed price of 120. It's when you need rounding for the calculations that you can see the difference. So it's totally possible that your merchant didn't see that before because he was using prices and tax rates that didn't need rounding up until now.") by [nicolas](/forum/user/63-nicolas "View nicolas's Profile") 9 years 10 months ago | | [](/forum/27-checkout/884226-need-to-click-process-order-twice-at-checkout#239308) | [Need to click Process Order twice at checkout](/forum/27-checkout/884226-need-to-click-process-order-twice-at-checkout#239308 "-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.nicaboyne.com -- HikaShop version -- : 2.6.2 -- Joomla version -- : 3.5.1 -- PHP version -- : 5.4.45 -- Browser(s) name and version -- : Chrome OSX -- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : N/A My client is complaining because, during checkout (typically he's gotten complaints from users with Paypal), customers are having to click 'Process Order' (the final step after shipping and payment methods are selected) twice to be redirected to paypal. Is this a known issue or behavior within Hikashop? I saw one other post from a long time ago but no strong leads on root cause: www.hikashop.com/forum/3-bug-report/4265...xt-button-twice.html") Category: [Checkout](/forum/27-checkout "Everything about the checkout process in Hikashop") Topic started 10 years 5 months ago, by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") [Last Post](/forum/27-checkout/884226-need-to-click-process-order-twice-at-checkout#239308 "Exactly right! A previous designer had made some customizations and they prevented changes as updates to the plugin were installed. I did a compare on the PHP and put the customizations on the latest version. Thank you SO MUCH.") 10 years 5 months ago by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") | Replies:6 Views:926 | [Last Post](/forum/27-checkout/884226-need-to-click-process-order-twice-at-checkout#239308 "Exactly right! A previous designer had made some customizations and they prevented changes as updates to the plugin were installed. I did a compare on the PHP and put the customizations on the latest version. Thank you SO MUCH.") by [killnine](/forum/user/38536-killnine "View killnine's Profile") 10 years 5 months ago | [](/forum/topics/feed/mode-topics?format=feed&type=rss) Time to create page: 0.165 seconds [Powered by](/forum/credits) [Kunena Forum](https://www.kunena.org) [](#top)