Create a mixed system of shipping?

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Our site sells mostly beeswax candles (lighter) and honey (heavier). I have seen sites that have a minimum flat rate shipping charge such as $7.95 and free ship over $150. (I already have the free ship at $150) Is there any way to go to a flat rate system with a surcharge if heavier items are added. Such as if someone orders candles (just fine for the flat rate) and they also order heavy jars of honey on the same order. Or a combination of ups and a flat rate. Maybe I would check something on the product page to let the system know if it is a flat rate or ups/usps item.

?? IDEA - Would it work it I put all candles at zero weight and added the $7.95 in as a minimum charge and left weight on the heavier items? Would the system work like this?

Hello,
Can you give me some example of how you exactly want it to work so that I can understand it ?

I would have 2 classes of items:
1 - lighter things (candles) that would be shipped by charging the customer a flat fee such as $8.95.
2 - heavier items (such as honey) that would have to a ups or usps fee

Scenario 1 - a customer would order 10 candles and hikashop would add the $8.95 flat fee.

Scenario 2 - a customer would order 10 candles, and a 10lb jar of honey and hikashop would figure the ups/usps fee (maybe including the $8.95)

Or some system similar?

Hi,

You can create two warehouses via the menu System>Warehouses
Then, in your products, you can select one warehouse or the other.
And in your shipping methods, you can also select a warehouse so that the shipping method will be restricted to the products of that warehouse.
That way, you'll have one selection of shipping methods for each group of products on the checkout and the two shipping methods prices will be summed up so in your second scenario it would result in the ups/usps fee + the $8.95 fee.

Thank you - I will not start this change until after Christmas Season - I will probably have more questions then.

I think I need some direction in setting it up to get started.

1 - Do I need to set up two warehouses (one for the flat rate and one for regular charge) Or is the one ok?
2 - If I only do the one flat rate (I called it beeswax) - can I leave every other product with no warehouse - or will everything need a wharehouse once I start using this system? (I have changed one product to the new warehouse for testing purposes.)
3 - Do I need to have two versions of usps plugin (&UPS) - with different settings for the different wharehouses?
4 - Or do I need a manual plugin - where do I add the minimum fee?

Hello,

1. Using 2 warehouses will do the job, note that you'll have to set 1 warehouse per product (flat rate warehouse or regular warehouse) and also have 2 shipping methods with different warehouses and rates.

2. That will depend if you want other product to use your shipping method too ? if you need them to work with that shipping method, they will need to be part of the same warehouse.

3. You'll just have to create 2 USPS / UPS shipping methods.

4. You'll have to use the "Price" option of your shipping services.

I have set up a new usps plugin and it works if someone orders ONLY from the flat rate products (I had to set their weights to zero - correct?)

I am having a problem with your comment:
"That way, you'll have one selection of shipping methods for each group of products on the checkout and the two shipping methods prices will be summed up so in your second scenario it would result in the ups/usps fee + the $8.95 fee. "

If I add a regular item to the checkout, I get two sets of shipping on the checkout - one for each one - How do I get them to combine?

I have the same issue:

I sell some stuff (A) which can be send in an envelope and i will charge 2 euro's
The other things ( B ) are to bulky so i have to pack a box. I will charge 8,95 for that.

Order just A and add 2 euro to the cart
Order just B and add 8,95 to the cart

A van be packed in B and both send for the amount of 8,95.

In other words the 2 euro will only be charged if no products are added of B

Can't get that working!

We need to set it up so a customer can order from 2 different warehouses and the total charge gets added together and put one shipping statement (plugin or whatever)

Hello,

We need to set it up so a customer can order from 2 different warehouses and the total charge gets added together and put one shipping statement (plugin or whatever)

Then in that case, if you want to buy 2 product :
- Product A which is in the warehouse A
- Product B which is in the warehouse B
2 shipping methods will be available for each warehouse :
- Shipping A which have the warehouse A as a restriction on the "Warehouse" option
- Shipping B which have the warehouse B as a restriction on the "Warehouse" option

Then both shipping method prices will combine.

Where will they combine? When I tried it, the customer had to select a shipping charge for each warehouse - rather than just one charge for his whole order. (the customer does not care which warehouse his order came from).

So the customer had to select
1 - a shipping charge from warehouse A
2 - a shipping charge from warehouse B
3 - and a payment

I want the customer only have to select
1 - the combined shipping from warehouse A & B
2 - payment

In my case the most expensive shipping method should overrule the cheaper one if both are selected by the ordered products...

Hello,

the customer had to select a shipping charge for each warehouse - rather than just one charge for his whole order. (the customer does not care which warehouse his order came from).

That's what we want, so that on your cart the total shipping price will be the price of your 2 shipping methods.

I want the customer only have to select
1 - the combined shipping from warehouse A & B
2 - payment

In that case you shouldn't use warehouses, you'll have to :
- Unset every warehouses from your product/shipping configuration page

- Go to your shipping method configuration page
- Use the "Use price per product" option of your shipping method configuration page

- Go to your product configuration page
- Set a shipping price / fee for your product through the "Shipping prices" tab of your product configuration page

[strike]What do you mean by "Use the "Use price per product" option of your shipping method configuration page" - I do not see it on my UPS or USPS shipping plugin[/strike]. Can every product have a different shipping charge? (I found it - I was not in the manual plugin)

Is it possible to have a product in two warehouses - such as: If I order 1 product A it is in one warehouse, but if I order 3 product A's is comes from a different warehouse with an extra shipping charge.

So if someone orders 1 product A - they have a normal Flat Rate Charge, but if they order 20 product A's, there is a different charge.


I may be that I am going about this backwards - only make a separate warehouse for the fewer heavier products we have and allow more smaller heavier products to be sold flat rate.

Hello,

What do you mean by "Use the "Use price per product" option of your shipping method configuration page" - I do not see it on my UPS or USPS shipping plugin. Can every product have a different shipping charge?

Yes by using the "Use price per product" option that you can find through the "" tab of your shipping configuration page, even for your UPS shipping method, in the case of a shipping method different than "Manual" the price per product will be add by the price returned by the shipping platform.

Is it possible to have a product in two warehouses - such as: If I order 1 product A it is in one warehouse, but if I order 3 product A's is comes from a different warehouse with an extra shipping charge.

No, warehouses are assigned to products regardless of their number.

So if someone orders 1 product A - they have a normal Flat Rate Charge, but if they order 20 product A's, there is a different charge.

That can be done without using warehouses, you'll only have to do it as I told you in my previous post by using the "Use price per product" option of your manual shipping methods.

Thank you for your assistance - I think I have it set up mostly the way I wanted using 2 warehouses - a "standard flat flat rate (which most every product is in and a "heavier" warehouse for the few heavy products.

One question - attached is a screenshot of a checkout. Local Pickup seems to be the default for both shipping warehouses. Can I make something else default like ($8.95 Flat Rate for the top one) and (UPS Ground for the bottom one)

Just for info - I have the "local pickup: shipping set to no warehouse - is that ok? But I need it for both. - do I need 2 of them?

NICE PROGRAM - BY THE WAY
BILL

Hello,

One question - attached is a screenshot of a checkout. Local Pickup seems to be the default for both shipping warehouses. Can I make something else default like ($8.95 Flat Rate for the top one) and (UPS Ground for the bottom one)

Yes, to do that you'll just have to change the ordering of your shipping methods via "Hikashop->System->Shipping methods" to :
1 - Flat Rate
2 - UPS
3 - Local Pickup

Also, if you didn't set any warehouse for the "Local Pickup" shipping method it will be available for both warehouses, which is what you want.

Now I am working on another problem with shipping. It involves a problem product file and UPS shipping.



The image above shows a checkout with two warehouses. The top part is a 12lb product with my Flat Rate Warehouse (A). It shows a UPS shipping of $21.16.
The shipping below is a similar 12lb product from by "heavier" warehouse ( - It shows a much higher, not accurate shipping rate of $89.28.


Below is the same checkout but a different product (still about 12lb) from a different page but still in my "heavier" warehouse ( - The UPS charge looks normal at $15.65.


I must have some problem with this page: beeswaxcandleshop.com/Order-Beeswax-Cand...ith-15-discount.html - This is basically a copy of another page with a few modifications.

Below screenshots of the backend of the page:




I am baffled - I even created a new item - with nothing there except price, weight and put it in "heavy" warehouse and then tried orderd 10 of them (about18lb) and the UPS charge was about 5 times normal. I could see no difference from the one that is working properly in the same warehouse.

Hi,

Would the problem come from the dimensions or the weight of the product ? Or maybe of the variants of the product ? Trying editing them in the Variants tab when you edit the product in ordrer to check on that.
Or it comes from the options that are different maybe ?