bootstrap and joomla 2.5

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10 years 8 months ago #114873

hi


Does someone succeed to make work boostrap with joomla 2.5 with hikashop ?

which template have been used ?

why gantry is not in the JED ?

How is implemented gantry ? ( compoment extension plug in ? )

thank's for any feedback


the boostrap extension that are "compatible" with joomla 2.5
JED bootstrap
framework => gantry yt-frameork
plugin => jbootstrap
template => protostar

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10 years 8 months ago #114877

Hi,

Yes, we made it work but sometimes you have to edit the template yourself in order to add/modify bootstrap CSS.
And I think you wanted to say "joostrap", not "jboostrap".

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Jerome - Obsidev.com
HikaMarket & HikaSerial developer / HikaShop core dev team.

Also helping the HikaShop support team when having some time or couldn't sleep.
By the way, do not send me private message, use the "contact us" form instead.
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10 years 8 months ago #114890

no even it is strange bootstrap can be implement in joomla using

  1. plugin jbootstrap
    the website from jed goes to YJ SimpleGrid
  2. ???? jootstrap
  3. ???? jbootstrap.extly.com

it seem their is two boostrap name
i read ob their website that joostrap is " Winner JandBeyond Mobile Web Sites" so need to take time to test it under joomla ( 2.5 ?)

regard's

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10 years 8 months ago #114907

Templates are not listed on the JED.

There are basically to ways to have bootstrap on your website:
1. You use a template which is already compatible with bootstrap
2. You use a template which isn't, and you also install and configure a boostrap compatibility plugin

Joostrap create templates which are already compatible with bootstrap.

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10 years 1 month ago #145450

Template is only the visble part of joomla . Boostrap is css selector ( id class) that are use inside specific html structure hiearchy even if new concept like SMACCS OCSS try to use the same "xpath selector" to different html tag structure !! .

For focus on the answer
1. You use a template which is already compatible with bootstrap ( template that override which extension ? )
2. You use a template which isn't, and you also install and configure a boostrap compatibility plugin ( which plug in ? some name ?)
----vaporware = no extension name or too limited number of extension (CMPLT ,component ,Modules ,Plug in ,Language, Template )
----Is there a documented template that list all the extension name that have been implemented/override using boostrap ?
----joomla is by default free, Is there a free mature efficient boostrap ( layout view) port with some parameters on back End for joomla today !!




So if joomla or CMS have to support bootstrap ( in the front side ) then all the joomla CMS Layout view ( for core and extension ) has to implement this hiearchy and generate using php the logic for bootstrap . For an example see which selector and html hiearchy is use by default for menu and have a look to how many way bootstrap menu ca nbe implemented in Bootstrap framework . Menu must take care of which item is active , the level of the item is active or mouse hover and it the item contain link or not amoung others rules specific to joomla ( alias, iln18, right ) .
Go from Joomla 1.5 to joomla 2.5 was a nightmare because of incompatibilities and boostrap 2.X is incomptatible with bootstrap 3.x . so ......It ll take time to see boostrap 3 implemented in joomla core and extension (joomla 4 ?) ! .

I am not an advanced user so my questions are ?

1) Is there a joomla version that support for all html view the boostrap logic ( core level and all default extension bundle with joomla ) which version ( joomla , bootstrap, framework if one is use ? ) Is it free ?

2) If logic is implemented in the server side in php, is there a way to find if bootstrap css framework is implemented by the extension ? in the JED the search form have no option to select know if extension use boostrap !!!

3) if joomla support bootstrap it is for be able to support the giant javascript library, theme tool , editor available / implemented for bootstrap !! So we see bootstrap plug in/component ( default or third external ) as a way to avoid the use of some joomla extension ( style gui extension ) ?

Regard's

Menu extension in joomla in jed
Menu in boostrap ( nav bar , button group )
Menu for boostrap implemented by non official boostrap team ( Ctr F menu)


Joostrap seem the only mature way to use bootstrap but not efficient information at this time how it is implemented and there is many pay extension. Joostrap seem also to be a pay product . We don't know if this product rewrite of ALL the layout view for html output of all extension bundle by default in joomla ? The information must be available in the website but hide somewhere ?

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10 years 1 month ago #145472

Hi,

1. Joomla 3.x is built with bootstrap 2.0 by default, both frontend and backend, and it's totally free to use.

2. Hard to find but usually, unless the developer mentions it, bootstrap is not supported.

3. I don't think that it will allow you to avoid the use of extensions.
You need to see bootstrap as just a set of rules that were agreed on by templates and extensions developers so that if the templates supports bootstrap and that the extensions supports bootstrap, the displayed elements of the extensions are styled automatically by the templates without requiring any custom styling for the extensions in the templates. Of course, that's in an ideal world... In reality, lot of templates and extensions do not support bootstrap, so much so that we had to deactivate it by default in HikaShop as it was causing issues with non bootstrap templates...

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