Categories listing/product page layout

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10 years 2 months ago #207161

-- url of the page with the problem -- : www.ckdev.info/sheriff/products
-- HikaShop version -- : 2.5.0
-- Joomla version -- : 3.4.3
-- PHP version -- : 5.5
-- Error-message(debug-mod must be tuned on) -- : None

All Categories page

When I first installed HS, the category page showed 3 wide (I have 3 columns set in the parameters). While fiddling with settings (really I find the only way to get what I want is this way - no offence intended but the tutorials are very inadequate) I have done something that now displays just one column and it's picking up the <body> bullets. I cannot find how to get it back to before.

Single category page Right now just product under "eyes"

Clicking a product sends a user to the About | About page (no such page actually exists - only About). I see when I mouse over the item, it's picking up an old path (I originally had a menu item called "z" in a hidden menu, but then changed it to "Products" under the main menu). Despite my change, HS has not picked this up.

Product page

Right now the single product detail page is unavailable (see above). However, when I was able to get to it (again, no idea what I changed) the thumbnails are too small. I found a size setting for thumbnails under General | Images, but this only sets the thumbnails for category pages.

Other items

It would be nice (like I've seen in dozens of shops) to have the color/option displayed when a user makes an option choice. Others have done it, why not HS?

Last edit: 10 years 2 months ago by trogladyte.

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10 years 2 months ago #207192

Hi,

1.) I guess you've set "Use Bootstrap design" to yes, but your template is not built on Bootstrap. So set it (back) to no and save, and all should be good again with columns.
www.hikashop.com/support/support/documen...html#display_general

2.) That's maybe due to you having canonical URLs enabled, and some meanwhile obsolete URLs still being in the system. An easy way to test is turning off the use of canonical URLs, at least for the purpose of testing: set "Force canonical URLs on listings" to "No, generate the URLs" and save, then check the frontend. If that fixes it but you want canonical URLs, you'll need to check/empty/change all related fields in categories and products before enabling canonical URLs again. You can do so manually, or use a mass action if it's many, many items.
www.hikashop.com/support/support/documen...ig.html#features_sef (screenshot outdated, text ok)
www.hikashop.com/support/support/documen...massaction-form.html (careful with it, complete backup incl database first!)

3.) Double-check your settings for "Product page image width" and "... height". You may want to increase the values there. As the name implies, that's for the product (detail) pages, while the thumbnail settings are for listings. Needless to say, make sure that the uploaded images are large enough, and that "Image width" and "Image height" are not too small, either.
www.hikashop.com/support/support/documen...fig.html#main_images

4.) That's well possible - not for "options", but for "characteristics" which result in "variants" of a main product, depending on your settings. For something like color variations of the (same) main product, characteristics are the way to go for creating (color) variants for which you can use and display different images. You may also want to look at the tutorial for "display by color".
www.hikashop.com/support/support/documen...html#characteristics
Since 2.5.0 the product add/edit page in the backend has changed, but characteristics only became simpler: www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/i...oduct-interface.html
And then eventually www.hikashop.com/support/support/documen...isplay-by-color.html

Not only due to the given great flexibility and fast development/improvements of HikaShop, some fiddling a.k.a. trial & error will always be part of the game, I'd say (me = being user like yourself). Helps understanding how things work, and probably you'll get to see more of the possibilities than by only reading long manuals and "following orders". ;)
Also, I guess we need to forgive the HikaShop team if the documentation is not always totally up-to-date as, again, this drawback is easily outweighed by the fast and vast addition and improvements of features. That's at least my 2 cents...

Need help with customisations of layouts, style or other site development? PM me!
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10 years 2 months ago #207183

Hi,

The product page is no more available potentially due to the settings of the option "Force canonical URLs on listings" under Configuration > Features > SEF Url options.
Please try to disable that option, there was potentially canonical urls generated but as you changed the menu name, so the canonical urls are no more valid, so you will have to not use them or regenerate them. To regenerate them you can simply clean the value via the mass actions and then set the value of the previous option to "Use cajnonical urls and generate it if missing".

For the thumbnails, the settings "Thumbnail width"and "Thumbnail height" must change the size of your thumbnails, if no, so it is potentially coming from your template, so some css properties can be set, here is tutorial about layout customization:
www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...ize-the-display.html

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10 years 2 months ago #207273

Thank you both for your input.

I still have the issue of really small thumbnails below the main product image. It's not a setting that I can find. www.hikashop.com/support/documentation/1...-display.html#layout shows every part of the product listing page EXCEPT thumbnails!

New URL : www.ckdev.info/sheriff/products/product/5-eye-lights

On that topic, I have attached a file that shows my SEF settings. I get horrible URLs and funky breadcrumbs still. To get to the URL above, you click PRODUCTS from the main menu At this point, breadcrumbs are OK, but "categories" is added into the URL (why?). Then you click "Eyes". Both the breadcrumb and URL are correct (except for "categories" in the URL). Then click the icon there (only one there at the moment). On that page the "Categories" is gone, and the breadcrumbs SHOULD read (IMHO) Home > Products > EYES > Eye Lights. However, Eyes is dropped.

How do I get to what I am expecting or am I just expecting wrong? Thanks.

EDIT: I see that, having added a new product (after making the SEF changes) that the breadcrumbs show properly for it. However there is an odd "category_pathway-13 on the end of the URL. I suspect, to get the first one showing properly I need to do that Mass Action thing (which I just couldn't make head nor tail of).

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10 years 2 months ago #207275

In addition, I could really get the whole color change with option selection thing happening. Well, I got it to change, but the main product image disappeared as soon as I clicked a color (colors are just in swatches, not like the tutorial where you have differen colored products). What I'd like is a main image that stays visible the whole time, with the color swatches cycling through as you click the veriant. Is that possible?

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10 years 2 months ago #207337

Hi,

1. The size of the thumbnails on that page can be changed as explained here:
www.hikashop.com/support/support/documen...ling.html#thumbnails

2. "categories" is added because that's what you have in the "category SEF name" option of the HikaShop configuration. Change it to something else if you want something else.

3. The breadcrumb will display either like you want (with the "simplified breadcrumb" option turned off) or not (when the "simplified breadcrumb" option is turned on). So you can adjust that setting for that.
When you turn off that option the category_pathway parameter is added to the URL of the product page as that is a necessary information for the display of the breadcrumb like you want.
Of course, since you have the "force canonical URL on listings" setting activated, the URL of the product pages will only change when you change the "simplified breadcrumb" setting if you clear the "canonical URL" field of your product (so that the SEF system can generate the URL leading to the product page).

4. When you configure something in a variant of a product, if you select that variant, the information you entered in the variant overrides the information of the main product. So if you set a price each variant, the price of the variants will override the price of the main product, rendering it useless. It's the same for the images.
So if you want an image that stays displayed regardless of the variant selected, you just need to add it to all the variants of the product.

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10 years 2 months ago #207526

Thanks - found it after a bit of a search. Thumbnails are now displaying at a more acceptable size.

Re my previous post: I see that, having added a new product (after making the SEF changes) that the breadcrumbs show properly for it. However there is an odd "category_pathway-13 on the end of the URL.What is this and how do I get rid of it?

I suspect, to get the first one to show the breadcrumbs properly - www.ckdev.info/sheriff/products/product/5-eye-lights - I need to do that Mass Action thing (which I just couldn't make head nor tail of). Can I get a 1, 2, 3 for accomplishing it please? Thanks.

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10 years 2 months ago #207529

I've already explained what that category_pathway parameter is for and why you can't remove it if you want your breadcrumb to display like you want in my previous email.
So I can't answer your question positively.

A mass action won't help.

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