Thank you, Nicolas. When I checked, the 'direct sub elements' was already clicked. I did finally find the solution to the original question, I saw that I had the wrong category listed for the products in question. Duh
I thought I had checked that area several times. I'm sorry.
In the category options tab, the 'category display' products number was already listed as no, I believe that was the area I was supposed to turn the product number off? I can live with the number, so not a huge problem.
I also found where to turn of the tax added to the price in the product listing display, so I was very happy about that since that would have been another question.
You folks deserve so much honor for your wonderful customer service. Thank you, again, so very much.
Blessings to you!